[AusNOG] Internet Association of Australia

[Gus Forsakov]

Hi.

I don't want to see blatant advertising for cabling on this list!





On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with David and the board.
>
> On 26 May 2016 9:53 AM, "Skeeve Stevens" <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry David,
> >
> > I think your email here is very unfriendly to the internet community in
> Australia and unsupportive of the things that IAA does.
> >
> > You've also just told every other organisation that does good things for
> the community to get stuffed too.
> >
> > We all play a part. Ausnog, IAA, Internet Australia, APNIC, CA, ACCAN,
> auDA, auIGF, etc - but you don't hit them like that and not everyone here
> are members of their organisations.
> >
> > There was no harm in their post and it only served to benefit those ISPs
> who are a part of it, and also let others know there are benefits of being
> a member of an 'association' - not even a for-profit business.
> >
>
> If the email was promoting IAA membership, with a bullet point as generic
> as "* special offers from industry suppliers" then I think it would have
> been OK.
>
> Where this crossed the line was it was an advertisement for a single
> business for members of a particular group of whom some listen here.
>
> If you've been around the Internet long enough, you can also smell
> astroturfing-like advertising such as posting subtle marketing to a much
> larger audience than appropriate.
>
> That can do more damage to the brand than intended. I've bought stuff from
> the vendor mentioned in the past, I might not in the future, just because
> of this single "innocent" email.
>
> > I think those who are not tolerant to the occasional bit of unrelated
> (to them) email really needs to get a life and worry about what is
> important.
> >
> > Just be giving sometimes.
> >
> > ...Skeeve
> >
> > Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> > Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com
> >
> > Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve
> ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve ; Expert360: Profile ; Keybase:
> https://keybase.io/skeeve
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:32 AM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Good morning Tom,
> >>
> >> While we openly support other associations within our industry, the
> email below is a bit rich.  Surely you have a mailing list of the IAA
> membership through which you could promote an IAA member-only promotion.
> There are thousands of people on the AusNOG list, most of whom would not be
> IAA members, so your email is unsolicited and irrelevant to them (i.e.
> SPAM).
> >>
> >> If you guys wish to cross-promote something like an event that would be
> of interest to the AusNOG list membership then we'd be happy to support
> that.  But please do not send emails like the one below to this list.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> David - on behalf of the AusNOG board
> >> ...
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25/05/2016, at 1:05 PM, Tom Berryman <tom at connectivityit.com.au>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi AusNOG-ers!
> >>>
> >>> Recently as many of you will know, WAIA (The Western Australian
> Internet Association) undertook a name change to better represent our focus
> and what we do for the industry, renaming to “Internet Association of
> Australia” (or IAA).
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to reach out to our members here on AusNOG and let you know
> 4Cabling.com.au are running a special for all of our members – a
> significant discount off everything ordered online. If you didn’t get our
> mail out with your code (i.e. it went to your accounts department) please
> feel free to reach out to me and I will get your code. The offer is for all
> our members.
> >>>
> >>> (Tom Berryman as President of the Internet Association of Australia)
> >>>
> >>> /TB
> >>>
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Best regards.
Gus
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