[AusNOG] (no subject)

[Bob Woolley]

I wonder what the average packet (pigeon) retry time (gestation period) is
like?
That's a fair few dropped packets.

- Bob W

On 4 September 2015 at 15:33, Patrick Ohearn <pat at ge3k.net> wrote:

> http://www.pigeons-r-us.co.uk/images/pigeon-shoot3.jpg
>
> On 4 September 2015 at 15:26, Dylan Chidgey
> <dylan.chidgey at cirruscomms.com.au> wrote:
> > What would be the implementation plan for data retention and lawful
> > interception?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nick
> > Stallman
> > Sent: Friday, 4 September 2015 3:23 PM
> > To: Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (no subject)
> >
> >
> >
> > That only applies for carrier pigeons I thought?
> >
> > On 04/09/15 14:31, Paul Wilkins wrote:
> >
> > You'll need a carrier license if your pigeons are crossing a property
> line.
> >
> > (I am not a lawyer. This is not expert legal opinion)
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Wilkins
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4 September 2015 at 09:19, Dylan Chidgey
> > <dylan.chidgey at cirruscomms.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Pigeons FTW
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8248056.stm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark
> > Smith
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 September 2015 5:33 PM
> > To: Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
> > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (no subject)
> >
> > On 3 September 2015 at 17:17, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au
> >
> > wrote:
> >> If I use hungry eagles instead, will I be:
> >> (a) non-compliant with the RFC
> >> (b) offering a lower-latency service
> >> (c) subject to ACCC investigation when other's links mysteriously fail
> >> (d) all of the above
> >>
> >
> > So if pigeon loss is too high, it might be necessary to resort to a more
> > reliable link layer, taking into account BCP 89/RFC 3819's advice
> ("Advice
> > for Internet Subnetwork Designers"),
> >
> > "Error recovery in the subnetwork is therefore
> >    justifiable only to the extent that it can enhance overall
> >    performance.  It is important to recognize that a subnetwork can go
> >    too far in attempting to provide error recovery services in the
> >    Internet environment.  Subnet reliability should be "lightweight",
> >    i.e., it only has to be "good enough", *not* perfect."
> >
> > and resort to a tank link-layer.
> >
> > RFC 1217, "Memo from the Consortium for Slow Commotion Research (CSCR)"
> >
> > "  This system uses a highly redundant optical communication technique
> >    to achieve ultra-low, ultra-robust transmission.  The basic unit is
> >    the M1A1 tank.  Each tank is labelled with the number 0 or 1 painted
> >    four feet high on the tank turret in yellow, day-glo luminescent
> >    paint."
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 3/09/2015 4:32 PM, Jim Woodward wrote:
> >>
> >> It's all good in theory until your network delivery team calls in with
> >> bird flu :)
> >>
> >> On 3/09/2015 3:20 PM, Purdon, Bob wrote:
> >>
> >>> So I reckon you'd be on solid ground if you used RFC1149.
> >>
> >> I recall that PIPE Networks did a trial of RFC1149 some time ago from
> >> the
> >> 127 Creek St office.  Wasn't terribly successful :-)
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhjn8kbFe74
> >>
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