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[Patrick Ohearn]

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On 4 September 2015 at 15:26, Dylan Chidgey
<dylan.chidgey at cirruscomms.com.au> wrote:
> What would be the implementation plan for data retention and lawful
> interception?
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> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nick
> Stallman
> Sent: Friday, 4 September 2015 3:23 PM
> To: Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (no subject)
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> That only applies for carrier pigeons I thought?
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> On 04/09/15 14:31, Paul Wilkins wrote:
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> You'll need a carrier license if your pigeons are crossing a property line.
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> (I am not a lawyer. This is not expert legal opinion)
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> Paul Wilkins
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> On 4 September 2015 at 09:19, Dylan Chidgey
> <dylan.chidgey at cirruscomms.com.au> wrote:
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> Pigeons FTW
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8248056.stm
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark
> Smith
> Sent: Thursday, 3 September 2015 5:33 PM
> To: Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (no subject)
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> On 3 September 2015 at 17:17, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
> wrote:
>> If I use hungry eagles instead, will I be:
>> (a) non-compliant with the RFC
>> (b) offering a lower-latency service
>> (c) subject to ACCC investigation when other's links mysteriously fail
>> (d) all of the above
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> So if pigeon loss is too high, it might be necessary to resort to a more
> reliable link layer, taking into account BCP 89/RFC 3819's advice ("Advice
> for Internet Subnetwork Designers"),
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> "Error recovery in the subnetwork is therefore
>    justifiable only to the extent that it can enhance overall
>    performance.  It is important to recognize that a subnetwork can go
>    too far in attempting to provide error recovery services in the
>    Internet environment.  Subnet reliability should be "lightweight",
>    i.e., it only has to be "good enough", *not* perfect."
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> and resort to a tank link-layer.
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> RFC 1217, "Memo from the Consortium for Slow Commotion Research (CSCR)"
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> "  This system uses a highly redundant optical communication technique
>    to achieve ultra-low, ultra-robust transmission.  The basic unit is
>    the M1A1 tank.  Each tank is labelled with the number 0 or 1 painted
>    four feet high on the tank turret in yellow, day-glo luminescent
>    paint."
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>>
>> On 3/09/2015 4:32 PM, Jim Woodward wrote:
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>> It's all good in theory until your network delivery team calls in with
>> bird flu :)
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>> On 3/09/2015 3:20 PM, Purdon, Bob wrote:
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>>> So I reckon you'd be on solid ground if you used RFC1149.
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>> I recall that PIPE Networks did a trial of RFC1149 some time ago from
>> the
>> 127 Creek St office.  Wasn't terribly successful :-)
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>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhjn8kbFe74
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