[AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU

[Brendan Halley]

Yes, because the general public knows the difference between a peer
exchange and the internet.

And let's be serious, traffic going through an IX is having no impact on
Australia's internet, by definition.

Brendan
On 06/04/2015 7:18 pm, "Ben Grubb" <bgrubb at smh.com.au> wrote:

> Btw, I never said they graphs showed the whole impact Netflix was having
> on the Aussie internet ;)
>
> On 6 April 2015 at 19:16, Ben Grubb <bgrubb at smh.com.au> wrote:
>
>> I understand the point you're trying to make —  perhaps "These graphs
>> show **some of** the impact Netflix is having on the Australian
>> internet" might have pleased you more. The purpose was to quantify how much
>> traffic was being pumped through peering exchanges. A headline with peering
>> in it isn't going to be that digestible.
>>
>> In lieu of other stats — iiNet and Megaport's are both listed in the
>> story  — this is what we have to go on.
>>
>> I actually list the ISPs in the story who are not using caching nodes:
>> "Member ISPs include Exetel, M2 Telecom (which owns the Dodo and iPrimus
>> brands), and the Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNET)".
>>
>> Anyway, I don't want this to continue to go off-topic and piss people off
>> so I'll try and leave it at that :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 April 2015 at 19:02, Seamus Ryan <s.ryan at uber.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>   Again, I don't understand what the complaint is. These were not
>>> super secret graphs...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I nitpick?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The graphs being used don’t concern me the slightest, they are public
>>> and are free for anyone to use IMO. It’s the title that gets me *"These
>>> graphs show the impact Netflix is having on the Australian internet*"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No, they don’t.
>>>
>>> All those graphs show is a large amount of traffic suddenly being served
>>> locally using domestic IX’s rather than being pulled from overseas
>>> networks. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has actually provided
>>> statistics (real stats, not estimations) on how many Netflix users resided
>>> in Australia BEFORE Netflix officially launched here. Additionally, nobody
>>> has provided stats on the signup rate since the official launch. The former
>>> we will probably never know because it isn’t in their interests to know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you read through the history of this thread, or even do just a few
>>> minutes of testing, you will find US-Exclusive content being served to
>>> Australian users (I won’t go into how, you all know) is in fact being
>>> served by IP’s/Caches that reside in Australia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What this means is that you,  (nor I) can prove the large amount of
>>> traffic hitting the Netflix caches locally (the ones linked to in your news
>>> article) is in fact a huge surge in Netflix signups, or simply the many
>>> users who have been using Netflix for years in Australia suddenly hitting a
>>> local cache rather than one overseas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The only half-fact we have from iiNet was:
>>>
>>> *Netflix has already reached 15 per cent of iiNet's consumer traffic in
>>> the first two days since launch. We are terrifically excited by the
>>> response*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But I would question whether iiNet (or any ISP for that matter) was
>>> actually keeping a close eye on their users’ Netflix traffic BEFORE the
>>> official launch in Australia. I would be interested to hear if some of the
>>> larger players have noticed a drop in international traffic simply because
>>> the content is now local.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Food for thoughts J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Seamus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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