[AusNOG] Netflix Peering in AU

[Ben Grubb]

Btw, I never said they graphs showed the whole impact Netflix was having on
the Aussie internet ;)

On 6 April 2015 at 19:16, Ben Grubb <bgrubb at smh.com.au> wrote:

> I understand the point you're trying to make —  perhaps "These graphs
> show **some of** the impact Netflix is having on the Australian internet"
> might have pleased you more. The purpose was to quantify how much traffic
> was being pumped through peering exchanges. A headline with peering in it
> isn't going to be that digestible.
>
> In lieu of other stats — iiNet and Megaport's are both listed in the
> story  — this is what we have to go on.
>
> I actually list the ISPs in the story who are not using caching nodes:
> "Member ISPs include Exetel, M2 Telecom (which owns the Dodo and iPrimus
> brands), and the Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNET)".
>
> Anyway, I don't want this to continue to go off-topic and piss people off
> so I'll try and leave it at that :)
>
>
>
> On 6 April 2015 at 19:02, Seamus Ryan <s.ryan at uber.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> >>   Again, I don't understand what the complaint is. These were not
>> super secret graphs...
>>
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>> Can I nitpick?
>>
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>> The graphs being used don’t concern me the slightest, they are public and
>> are free for anyone to use IMO. It’s the title that gets me *"These
>> graphs show the impact Netflix is having on the Australian internet*"
>>
>>
>>
>> No, they don’t.
>>
>> All those graphs show is a large amount of traffic suddenly being served
>> locally using domestic IX’s rather than being pulled from overseas
>> networks. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has actually provided
>> statistics (real stats, not estimations) on how many Netflix users resided
>> in Australia BEFORE Netflix officially launched here. Additionally, nobody
>> has provided stats on the signup rate since the official launch. The former
>> we will probably never know because it isn’t in their interests to know.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you read through the history of this thread, or even do just a few
>> minutes of testing, you will find US-Exclusive content being served to
>> Australian users (I won’t go into how, you all know) is in fact being
>> served by IP’s/Caches that reside in Australia.
>>
>>
>>
>> What this means is that you,  (nor I) can prove the large amount of
>> traffic hitting the Netflix caches locally (the ones linked to in your news
>> article) is in fact a huge surge in Netflix signups, or simply the many
>> users who have been using Netflix for years in Australia suddenly hitting a
>> local cache rather than one overseas.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only half-fact we have from iiNet was:
>>
>> *Netflix has already reached 15 per cent of iiNet's consumer traffic in
>> the first two days since launch. We are terrifically excited by the
>> response*
>>
>>
>>
>> But I would question whether iiNet (or any ISP for that matter) was
>> actually keeping a close eye on their users’ Netflix traffic BEFORE the
>> official launch in Australia. I would be interested to hear if some of the
>> larger players have noticed a drop in international traffic simply because
>> the content is now local.
>>
>>
>>
>> Food for thoughts J
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Seamus
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