<p dir="ltr">Yes, because the general public knows the difference between a peer exchange and the internet.</p>
<p dir="ltr">And let's be serious, traffic going through an IX is having no impact on Australia's internet, by definition.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 06/04/2015 7:18 pm, "Ben Grubb" <<a href="mailto:bgrubb@smh.com.au">bgrubb@smh.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Btw, I never said they graphs showed the whole impact Netflix was having on the Aussie internet ;) </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 April 2015 at 19:16, Ben Grubb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bgrubb@smh.com.au" target="_blank">bgrubb@smh.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I understand the point you're trying to make <span style="color:rgb(84,84,84);line-height:18.2000007629395px">— p</span>erhaps "These graphs show <b>*some of*</b> the impact Netflix is having on the Australian internet" might have pleased you more. The purpose was to quantify how much traffic was being pumped through peering exchanges. A headline with peering in it isn't going to be that digestible.</div><div><br></div><div><font color="#000000">In lieu of other stats <span style="line-height:18.2000007629395px">— iiNet and Megaport's are both listed in the story </span><span style="line-height:18.2000007629395px">— this is what we have to go on.</span></font></div><div><br></div><div>I actually list the ISPs in the story who are not using caching nodes: "Member ISPs include Exetel, M2 Telecom (which owns the Dodo and iPrimus brands), and the Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNET)".</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, I don't want this to continue to go off-topic and piss people off so I'll try and leave it at that :)</div><div><i style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6666669845581px"><br></i></div><div><i style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6666669845581px"><br></i></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 6 April 2015 at 19:02, Seamus Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.ryan@uber.com.au" target="_blank">s.ryan@uber.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#1f497d">>> </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Again, I don't understand what the complaint is. These were not super secret graphs...<span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Can I nitpick? <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The graphs being used don’t concern me the slightest, they are public and are free for anyone to use IMO. It’s the title that gets me
<i>"These graphs show the impact Netflix is having on the Australian internet</i>"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">No, they don’t.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">All those graphs show is a large amount of traffic suddenly being served locally using domestic IX’s rather than being pulled from overseas networks. To the best
of my knowledge, nobody has actually provided statistics (real stats, not estimations) on how many Netflix users resided in Australia BEFORE Netflix officially launched here. Additionally, nobody has provided stats on the signup rate since the official launch.
The former we will probably never know because it isn’t in their interests to know.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">If you read through the history of this thread, or even do just a few minutes of testing, you will find US-Exclusive content being served to Australian users
(I won’t go into how, you all know) is in fact being served by IP’s/Caches that reside in Australia. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">What this means is that you, (nor I) can prove the large amount of traffic hitting the Netflix caches locally (the ones linked to in your news article) is in
fact a huge surge in Netflix signups, or simply the many users who have been using Netflix for years in Australia suddenly hitting a local cache rather than one overseas.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The only half-fact we have from iiNet was:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Netflix has already reached 15 per cent of iiNet's consumer traffic in the first two days since launch. We are terrifically excited by the response<u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">But I would question whether iiNet (or any ISP for that matter) was actually keeping a close eye on their users’ Netflix traffic BEFORE the official launch in
Australia. I would be interested to hear if some of the larger players have noticed a drop in international traffic simply because the content is now local.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Regards,<br>
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