[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Matt Perkins]

That's the $100,000 question. The answer is I need to pay a lawyer to 
find out and those costs will either come out of the mouths of my family 
or be passed onto my customers.



On 30/10/2014 3:42 pm, Andrew Yager wrote:
> Or is service provider the CSP who terminated the service?
>
> Andrew
>
> On Thursday, 30 October 2014, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au 
> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     I would be interested to see paragraph 187A(4) of the act.  It
>     seems to indicate that
>
>     This item will only apply to the service provider operating the
>     relevant service: So does that mean we need to know who chatted to
>     who on facebook for example but facebook is the service provider
>     so they would be the people that would need to get the info. Not
>     the ISP. The ISP could not be expected to break an encryption do
>     get the info.
>
>     So im thinking a lot of this will be "who is the service provider"
>     .  Is it skype, Is it facebook, Is it the guy providing the copper ?
>
>     Matt.
>
>
>
>
>     On 30/10/2014 3:26 pm, Paul Julian wrote:
>>
>>     I think something more than a lay down is needed James J
>>
>>     I like 5 as well, I am now think that we will have it easy
>>     compared to a mobile carrier, they will have to comply with it
>>     all, NATT'ed IP's across towers, logs of handovers as the user
>>     moves from tower to tower, available bandwidth once they change
>>     towers and how much the user used for down and up at each tower,
>>     wow, seriously complicated and intensive stuff I would think.
>>
>>     So who was it that said this isn't anything to worry about ?
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>>     *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net');>] *On
>>     Behalf Of *James Morgan
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, 30 October 2014 3:21 PM
>>     *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ausnog at lists.ausnog.net');>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a
>>     thing
>>
>>     I'm a particular fan of:
>>
>>     5. The type of communication or relevant service used in
>>     connection with a communication
>>
>>     The following: (a) the type of communication; Examples: Voice,
>>     SMS, email, chat, forum, social media.
>>
>>     I'm just a little worried.  What about web forums that have a
>>     chat room?  Or email services that have an instant messaging
>>     component?  Or social media that has a chat component?
>>
>>     I think I need to lay down.
>>
>>     James.
>>
>>
>>
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         Office 1300 133 299     matt at spectrum.com.au
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