[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Andrew Yager]

Or is service provider the CSP who terminated the service?

Andrew

On Thursday, 30 October 2014, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

>  I would be interested to see paragraph 187A(4) of the act.  It seems to
> indicate that
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> This item will only apply to the service provider operating the relevant
> service: So does that mean we need to know who chatted to who on facebook
> for example but facebook is the service provider so they would be the
> people that would need to get the info. Not the ISP. The ISP could not be
> expected to break an encryption do get the info.
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> So im thinking a lot of this will be "who is the service provider" .  Is
> it skype, Is it facebook, Is it the guy providing the copper ?
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> Matt.
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> On 30/10/2014 3:26 pm, Paul Julian wrote:
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>  I think something more than a lay down is needed James J
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> I like 5 as well, I am now think that we will have it easy compared to a
> mobile carrier, they will have to comply with it all, NATT'ed IP's across
> towers, logs of handovers as the user moves from tower to tower, available
> bandwidth once they change towers and how much the user used for down and
> up at each tower, wow, seriously complicated and intensive stuff I would
> think.
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> So who was it that said this isn't anything to worry about ?
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> Paul
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
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> Behalf Of *James Morgan
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing
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> I'm a particular fan of:
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> 5. The type of communication or relevant service used in connection with a
> communication
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> The following: (a) the type of communication; Examples: Voice, SMS, email,
> chat, forum, social media.
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> I'm just a little worried.  What about web forums that have a chat room?
> Or email services that have an instant messaging component?  Or social
> media that has a chat component?
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> I think I need to lay down.
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> James.
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