[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Matt Perkins]

I would be interested to see paragraph 187A(4) of the act.  It seems to 
indicate that

This item will only apply to the service provider operating the relevant 
service: So does that mean we need to know who chatted to who on 
facebook for example but facebook is the service provider so they would 
be the people that would need to get the info. Not the ISP. The ISP 
could not be expected to break an encryption do get the info.

So im thinking a lot of this will be "who is the service provider" .  Is 
it skype, Is it facebook, Is it the guy providing the copper ?

Matt.




On 30/10/2014 3:26 pm, Paul Julian wrote:
>
> I think something more than a lay down is needed James J
>
> I like 5 as well, I am now think that we will have it easy compared to 
> a mobile carrier, they will have to comply with it all, NATT'ed IP's 
> across towers, logs of handovers as the user moves from tower to 
> tower, available bandwidth once they change towers and how much the 
> user used for down and up at each tower, wow, seriously complicated 
> and intensive stuff I would think.
>
> So who was it that said this isn't anything to worry about ?
>
> Paul
>
> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *James Morgan
> *Sent:* Thursday, 30 October 2014 3:21 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing
>
> I'm a particular fan of:
>
> 5. The type of communication or relevant service used in connection 
> with a communication
>
> The following: (a) the type of communication; Examples: Voice, SMS, 
> email, chat, forum, social media.
>
> I'm just a little worried.  What about web forums that have a chat 
> room?  Or email services that have an instant messaging component?  Or 
> social media that has a chat component?
>
> I think I need to lay down.
>
> James.
>
>
>
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