[AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details

[Skeeve Stevens]

You can turn it off... we do.  By default I believe it is transparent.


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On 1 October 2014 14:11, Brad Evans <brad at delion.com.au> wrote:

>   Going by iinet looking glass,  same path length. Seems Equinix AS is
> not transparent looking in from this direction.
>
>
>
>   4739 18398 55555
>     150.101.32.2 from *150.101.32.2* <http://looking-glass.internode.on.net/lg.cgi?query=bgp&protocol=IPv4&addr=neighbors+150.101.32.2&router=AS4739+view> (150.101.32.2)
>       Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
>       Community:  4806:1 (Received in Sydney AU)
>       Last update: Tue Sep 30 11:53:51 2014
>
>   4739 24115 55555
>     150.101.32.1 from *150.101.32.1* <http://looking-glass.internode.on.net/lg.cgi?query=bgp&protocol=IPv4&addr=neighbors+150.101.32.1&router=AS4739+view> (150.101.32.1)
>       Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
>       Community:  4806:1 (Received in Sydney AU)
>       Last update: Tue Sep 30 11:53:47 2014
>
>
> -Brad
>
>  On 1/10/2014 2:04 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>
> Does IX include the ASN in the path?
>
>  I've noticed a lot of things prefer Equinix because the ASN is
> transparent.
>
>  It would be interesting to see what the path selection would be if all
> things were equal.
>
>
>
>
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> On 1 October 2014 13:47, Brad Evans <brad at delion.com.au> wrote:
>
>>  I'm guessing that if you turn off NSW-IX that the vast majority of that
>> traffic would then move over to Equinix and Megaport.
>>
>> For us we see 90/10 traffic split between Equinix and PIPE-IX in NSW.
>> If we bring down our session on Equinix, most of the traffic (~95%) moves
>> over to PIPE-IX anyway. It appears our main traffic sources prefer to send
>> traffic to our AS via Equinix rather than PIPE-IX.
>>
>> -Brad
>>
>>
>> On 1/10/2014 1:24 PM, Tom Berryman wrote:
>>
>>  In NSW presently:
>>
>> Equinix - 11609
>>
>> NSW-IX - 7967
>>
>> Megaport – 4495
>>
>> --we don’t have PIPE there.
>>
>>
>>
>> NSW-IX sees the highest inbound for us by about 200% over the next.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:20 PM
>> *To:* Bevan Slattery
>> *Cc:* AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net; Joshua Munro; Belinda Flanders
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details
>>
>>
>>
>> *BAM!*
>>
>>
>>
>> Go Megaport.
>>
>>
>>
>> $250 peering only (1Gb)
>>
>> $500 peering + VxC capability (10Gb)
>>
>>
>>
>> News worthy day!
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder how long till Pipe Peering dies... most networks we run have
>> disconnected from it... Megaport and EQ cover most things.  I hear IX is
>> good, but not had the opportunity to connect up someone yet... will soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd love to see a route differential between all 4 on a state by state..
>> I wonder if someone could do a snapshot analysis. I'm most interested in
>> NSW.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd like to see what is and isn't on each peering.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>>
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>
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>>
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>>
>> On 1 October 2014 12:15, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>  To make life easy as of today we are doing a 1Gbps IX only port for
>> $250/month no contract, no membership, no install.  Also will have a number
>> of major content providers coming on net in next 30 days which would mean
>> there won't be much that's not on either.
>>
>>
>>
>> Agree that it's time to switch :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> [b]
>>
>>
>> On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:42 am, Craig Askings <craig at askings.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>  Does PIPE-IX even offer a worthwhile product anymore? Since an IX’s
>> value is in it’s peers and it’s ability to connect them. Who is left on
>> PIPE IX that isn’t available on Megaport and IX-AU? How many clients are
>> going to be exiting over the next 24 months as their contracts expire?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:29 am, Bob Woolley <boblobsta at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>   PIPE has absolutely gone to crap.
>>
>> Just shy of 4 weeks since our issue on QLD-IX and they are still trying
>> to figure out how to make the TPG router on QLD-IX perform basic ARP
>> functions (I only mention this as this job is being directly managed by
>> PIPE).
>>
>> I don't know about you guys but if we had an ARP issue on a router for
>> more than a few minutes I would be highly embarrassed.
>>
>>
>>
>> IX-AU A++
>>
>> Megaport A++
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob W
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1 October 2014 11:18, Sam Silvester <sam.silvester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  +1 to what John said.
>>
>> This kind of thing leads to my personal view that that PIPE IX isn't
>> really a thing any longer, what with other IXes actually offering customer
>> service that allows you to get on with the job.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:09 AM, John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Which means your work-around is more likely to cause their fabric to
>> break later when your old box is recycled by someone else. Change control
>> policy as substitute for customer service is actually just crap customer
>> service.
>>
>> John Lindsay
>>
>>
>> > On 1 Oct 2014, at 10:21 am, Brad Gould <bradley at internode.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > My understanding is that this is all about their change control policy.
>> >
>> > Change the MAC on your router and book a window to change it back to
>> the native MAC when Pipe can get their process sorted.
>> >
>> > Brad
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Chris Chaundy
>> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:36
>> > To: Joseph Goldman
>> > Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
>> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details
>> >
>> > Dependent on your make of router, it may just be easier to change the
>> MAC address for the interface on the new router to match the old router's
>> one.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On 1 Oct 2014, at 9:15, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi list,
>> >>
>> >> I am just wondering if this is normal - trying to change MAC address
>> for router port after urgent change-over for our PIPE peering connection in
>> NSW, request was sent through to the MACD team but they are telling me the
>> request needs to be approved by their management and ETA is 3-5 business
>> days??
>> >>
>> >> I'm not a massive user of PIPE IX but I have now been without it for
>> 24 hours and its looking like it could be another 48-72 hours before
>> getting it back! For someone who might get a LOT of their traffic via PIPE
>> IX this would be a pretty bad amount of downtime, as other transit links
>> would have to pick up the slack.
>> >>
>> >> If any PIPE engineers on list willing to help the request move a
>> little quicker I'd appreciate it.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Joe
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