<div dir="ltr">You can turn it off... we do.  By default I believe it is transparent.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a>skype://skeeve</a></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> ; blog: </span><a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><br></p><p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><img src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br></p><p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p></font></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Cloud</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Consulting</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4 Brokering</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 October 2014 14:11, Brad Evans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brad@delion.com.au" target="_blank">brad@delion.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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        <div>Going by iinet looking glass,  same
          path length. Seems Equinix AS is not transparent looking in
          from this direction.<br>
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          -Brad<br>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      On 1/10/2014 2:04 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Does IX include the ASN in the path?
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I've noticed a lot of things prefer Equinix because the ASN
          is transparent.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>It would be interesting to see what the path selection
          would be if all things were equal.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
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      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
        <div>
          <div dir="ltr">
            <div><br>
              ...Skeeve</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>
              <div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve
                  Stevens - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego
                  Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
              <div>
                <div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font>
                    <p style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Phone:
                      1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a>skype://skeeve</a></p>
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                    </p>
                    <p style="margin:0px"><span style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The
                        Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p>
                  </font></div>
                <div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper -
                    Cisco </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Cloud</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">-
                    Consulting</span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4
                    Brokering</span></div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 1 October 2014 13:47, Brad Evans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brad@delion.com.au" target="_blank">brad@delion.com.au</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I'm guessing that if
              you turn off NSW-IX that the vast majority of that traffic
              would then move over to Equinix and Megaport.<br>
              <br>
              For us we see 90/10 traffic split between Equinix and
              PIPE-IX in NSW.   If we bring down our session on Equinix,
              most of the traffic (~95%) moves over to PIPE-IX anyway.
              It appears our main traffic sources prefer to send traffic
              to our AS via Equinix rather than PIPE-IX.<br>
              <br>
              -Brad<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <div>On 1/10/2014 1:24 PM, Tom Berryman wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In

                      NSW presently:</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Equinix

                      - 11609</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">NSW-IX

                      - 7967</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Megaport

                      – 4495</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">--we

                      don’t have PIPE there.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">NSW-IX

                      sees the highest inbound for us by about 200% over
                      the next.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tom</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><a name="148c9e7f5b16204f_148c9d2fb0ffd863__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></a></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
                      <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:20 PM<br>
                      <b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery<br>
                      <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>;
                      Joshua Munro; Belinda Flanders<br>
                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing
                      Details</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">*BAM!*</p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Go Megaport.</p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">$250 peering only (1Gb)</p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">$500 peering + VxC capability
                        (10Gb)</p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">News worthy day!</p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I wonder how long till Pipe
                        Peering dies... most networks we run have
                        disconnected from it... Megaport and EQ cover
                        most things.  I hear IX is good, but not had the
                        opportunity to connect up someone yet... will
                        soon.</p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I'd love to see a route
                        differential between all 4 on a state by state..
                        I wonder if someone could do a snapshot
                        analysis. I'm most interested in NSW.</p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">I'd like to see what is and
                        isn't on each peering.</p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all">
                    </p>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                            ...Skeeve</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Skeeve

                                  Stevens - </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">eintellego

                                Networks Pty Ltd</span></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span></p>
                              <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Phone:

                                  1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
                                  ; <a>skype://skeeve</a></span></p>
                              <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </span></p>
                              <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span style="color:black"> ; blog: </span><a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a></span></p>
                              <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><img src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png" border="0"></span></p>
                              <p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7f007f">The

                                  Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Juniper

                                  - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4
                                  Brokering</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7f007f"></span></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">On 1 October 2014 12:15,
                        Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>>
                        wrote:</p>
                      <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">To make life easy as of
                              today we are doing a 1Gbps IX only port
                              for $250/month no contract, no membership,
                              no install.  Also will have a number of
                              major content providers coming on net in
                              next 30 days which would mean there won't
                              be much that's not on either.</p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Agree that it's time to
                              switch :)</p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<br>
                              <br>
                              [b]</p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                              On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:42 am, Craig Askings
                              <<a href="mailto:craig@askings.com.au" target="_blank">craig@askings.com.au</a>>

                              wrote:</p>
                          </div>
                          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Does PIPE-IX even
                                  offer a worthwhile product anymore?
                                  Since an IX’s value is in it’s peers
                                  and it’s ability to connect them. Who
                                  is left on PIPE IX that isn’t
                                  available on Megaport and IX-AU? How
                                  many clients are going to be exiting
                                  over the next 24 months as their
                                  contracts expire?</p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 1 Oct 2014,
                                      at 11:29 am, Bob Woolley <<a href="mailto:boblobsta@gmail.com" target="_blank">boblobsta@gmail.com</a>>

                                      wrote:</p>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                    <br>
                                  </p>
                                  <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">PIPE has
                                          absolutely gone to crap.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Just shy of
                                          4 weeks since our issue on
                                          QLD-IX and they are still
                                          trying to figure out how to
                                          make the TPG router on QLD-IX
                                          perform basic ARP functions (I
                                          only mention this as this job
                                          is being directly managed by
                                          PIPE).</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">I don't
                                          know about you guys but if we
                                          had an ARP issue on a router
                                          for more than a few minutes I
                                          would be highly embarrassed.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">IX-AU A++</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Megaport
                                          A++</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,</p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Bob W</p>
                                      </div>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On 1
                                          October 2014 11:18, Sam
                                          Silvester <<a href="mailto:sam.silvester@gmail.com" target="_blank">sam.silvester@gmail.com</a>>

                                          wrote:</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal">+1 to
                                              what John said.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              This kind of thing leads
                                              to my personal view that
                                              that PIPE IX isn't really
                                              a thing any longer, what
                                              with other IXes actually
                                              offering customer service
                                              that allows you to get on
                                              with the job.</p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                    Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at
                                                    10:09 AM, John
                                                    Lindsay <<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>>

                                                    wrote:</p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Which

                                                      means your
                                                      work-around is
                                                      more likely to
                                                      cause their fabric
                                                      to break later
                                                      when your old box
                                                      is recycled by
                                                      someone else.
                                                      Change control
                                                      policy as
                                                      substitute for
                                                      customer service
                                                      is actually just
                                                      crap customer
                                                      service.<br>
                                                      <span style="color:#888888"><br>
                                                        John Lindsay</span></p>
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                                                        > On 1 Oct
                                                        2014, at 10:21
                                                        am, Brad Gould
                                                        <<a href="mailto:bradley@internode.com.au" target="_blank">bradley@internode.com.au</a>>

                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        > My
                                                        understanding is
                                                        that this is all
                                                        about their
                                                        change control
                                                        policy.<br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        > Change the
                                                        MAC on your
                                                        router and book
                                                        a window to
                                                        change it back
                                                        to the native
                                                        MAC when Pipe
                                                        can get their
                                                        process sorted.<br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        > Brad<br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        >
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                                                        > From:
                                                        AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                                                        On Behalf Of
                                                        Chris Chaundy<br>
                                                        > Sent:
                                                        Wednesday, 1
                                                        October 2014
                                                        09:36<br>
                                                        > To: Joseph
                                                        Goldman<br>
                                                        > Cc: <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                                                        > Subject:
                                                        Re: [AusNOG]
                                                        PIPE NSW
                                                        Changing Details<br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        > Dependent
                                                        on your make of
                                                        router, it may
                                                        just be easier
                                                        to change the
                                                        MAC address for
                                                        the interface on
                                                        the new router
                                                        to match the old
                                                        router's one.<br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        > Sent from
                                                        my iPhone<br>
                                                        ><br>
                                                        >> On 1
                                                        Oct 2014, at
                                                        9:15, Joseph
                                                        Goldman <<a href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>>
                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                        >><br>
                                                        >> Hi
                                                        list,<br>
                                                        >><br>
                                                        >> I am
                                                        just wondering
                                                        if this is
                                                        normal - trying
                                                        to change MAC
                                                        address for
                                                        router port
                                                        after urgent
                                                        change-over for
                                                        our PIPE peering
                                                        connection in
                                                        NSW, request was
                                                        sent through to
                                                        the MACD team
                                                        but they are
                                                        telling me the
                                                        request needs to
                                                        be approved by
                                                        their management
                                                        and ETA is 3-5
                                                        business days??<br>
                                                        >><br>
                                                        >> I'm not
                                                        a massive user
                                                        of PIPE IX but I
                                                        have now been
                                                        without it for
                                                        24 hours and its
                                                        looking like it
                                                        could be another
                                                        48-72 hours
                                                        before getting
                                                        it back! For
                                                        someone who
                                                        might get a LOT
                                                        of their traffic
                                                        via PIPE IX this
                                                        would be a
                                                        pretty bad
                                                        amount of
                                                        downtime, as
                                                        other transit
                                                        links would have
                                                        to pick up the
                                                        slack.<br>
                                                        >><br>
                                                        >> If any
                                                        PIPE engineers
                                                        on list willing
                                                        to help the
                                                        request move a
                                                        little quicker
                                                        I'd appreciate
                                                        it.<br>
                                                        >><br>
                                                        >> Thanks,<br>
                                                        >> Joe<br>
                                                        >>
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