[AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME

Tue Jan 14 11:52:48 EST 2014

not sure what rack we've got. they are all unbranded and were installed
well before my time.

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM, James Morgan
<James.Morgan at vernet.com.au>wrote:

> I have a feeling you might have the same issue we did.  I have since tried
> ours in a couple of other racks with variable results, albeit mostly
> tending toward the ‘very easy’ end of the scale.
>
>
>
> Any word on what sort of rack you’re using?
>
>
>
> James.
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Barnes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 January 2014 11:46 AM
>
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>
>
>
> My RackStud sample packs arrived.
>
> Just had a go at installing them in a few of our racks. Damn they are
> tight.
>
> Took a lot of effort to get them installed and removing them required
> tools...almost as difficult as installing cage nuts.
>
> could just be the racks/frames we're using.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM, James Morgan <James.Morgan at vernet.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> Turns out our friends at Hallam had dropped some samples in for a
> colleague at the end of last year but he didn't understand what they were
> at the time so didn't give them much thought.  I showed him the website
> this morning and he remembered he had some.
>
> A small word of warning on RackStuds is that they don't fit our Hallam
> Channel Rack (http://www.thehallamgroup.com/item/channel-racks).  I
> thought we were going mad for a while, but on closer inspection because the
> vertical rails that the holes are punched into is actually the structure of
> the rack it appears they use a slightly thicker rail, and as a result the
> RackStud can't get all the way through the hole which prevents it from
> pivoting to allow the other side to clip in.  Looking at the website it
> appears RackStuds can accommodate a rail thickness up to 2.2mm.  The Hallam
> site doesn't say what theirs is, but hopefully this warning might save a
> sad nogger or two in a couple of weeks if they haven't checked if their
> rails are compatible.
>
> With that said, we tried it on one of our conventional Hallam racks and it
> practically fell into the hole.  Not bad at all.
>
> Cheers,
> James.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nathan
> Le Nevez
> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 7:42 PM
> To: Mark ZZZ Smith; James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>
> Nexus 7ks don't fit in our 1050mm racks unless the front and rear rack
> doors are removed!
>
> 5k's aren’t much better either...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark ZZZ Smith [mailto:markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au]
> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 6:41 PM
> To: Nathan Le Nevez; James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nathan Le Nevez <nathan at lenevez.net.au>
> > To: Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>; James Hodgkinson
> > <yaleman at ricetek.net>; Mark Dignam <mark at innaloo.net>
> > Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 4:37 PM
> > Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
> >
> >>  Have never had these sorts of issues with comms gear.
> >
> > Then you have never racked a Cisco Nexus... :)
> >
> >
>
> True. How big was it? If it is so big that it needs special rack mount kit
> then I think a chassis failure requiring replacement will cause a too large
> a MTTR and require too many people.
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
> > Mark ZZZ Smith
> > Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 1:58 PM
> > To: James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam
> > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >>  From: James Hodgkinson <yaleman at ricetek.net>
> >> To: Mark Dignam <mark at innaloo.net>
> >> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> >> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 9:34 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Were they the ones with the stupid blue plastic bits you have to push
> >> to
> > make them unlock? They're great until you have to move them once or
> > twice, then they're horrible. :(
> >>
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5 January 2014 00:58, Mark Dignam <mark at innaloo.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Or, there will some equipment manufacturer who demands that their
> >> equipment
> > is mounted using M7 bolts because of its weight loading.
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, we could just demand something like some of the
> > current IBM kit, I just installed a clients SAN, it was all ‘snap in’
> > slide rails, no screws required.
> >>>
> >
> > I've had very little to do with installing this sort of server gear,
> > however I've already seen enough variation and incompatibility just
> > across a few Dell and HP pizza box and blade chassis with standard and
> > common racks that I already know it isn't as easy as it sounds. Common
> > 800mm racks usually aren't deep enough, sometimes they are but you
> > have to move the rails, which is only easy if there is nothing else in
> > the rack, sometimes 900mm aren't deep enought etc.
> >
> > The server design people should pick a standard, *single* rack size
> > and design to fit in it, and they should go more RUs higher rather
> > than deeper if they haven't got room.
> >
> > Have never had these sorts of issues with comms gear.
> >
> >>>
> >>> From:AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
> >>> Robert
> > Hudson
> >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2014 11:49 AM
> >>>
> >>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
> >>>
> >>> All good until some gumby cross-threads something and reams thread
> >>> out
> > of the rail...
> >>>
> >>> On 4 January 2014 13:46, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org>
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 9:37 am, Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood at yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  But up-down only works where there's some space to work in. I
> > doubt the original designers envisaged the rack cramming that we're
> > all used to.
> >>> If only rack rails were manufactured with tapped M6 holes instead of
> > square holes big enough to accept cage nut clips. Then we wouldn't
> > need the nuts at all.
> >>>
> >>>    - mark
> >>>
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