[AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME

Tue Jan 14 12:10:46 EST 2014

I had similar issues with tightness - with a MFB branded rack. I've had
serious issues with rack nuts/their interpretation of the size of an RU in
the past so I wasn't surprised. I haven't yet tested them in a rack I'd pay
good money for :)

James

On 14 January 2014 10:52, Chris Barnes <chris.p.barnes at gmail.com> wrote:

> not sure what rack we've got. they are all unbranded and were installed
> well before my time.
>
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>
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> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM, James Morgan <James.Morgan at vernet.com.au
> > wrote:
>
>> I have a feeling you might have the same issue we did.  I have since
>> tried ours in a couple of other racks with variable results, albeit mostly
>> tending toward the ‘very easy’ end of the scale.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any word on what sort of rack you’re using?
>>
>>
>>
>> James.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Chris
>> Barnes
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 January 2014 11:46 AM
>>
>> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>>
>>
>>
>> My RackStud sample packs arrived.
>>
>> Just had a go at installing them in a few of our racks. Damn they are
>> tight.
>>
>> Took a lot of effort to get them installed and removing them required
>> tools...almost as difficult as installing cage nuts.
>>
>> could just be the racks/frames we're using.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM, James Morgan <James.Morgan at vernet.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Turns out our friends at Hallam had dropped some samples in for a
>> colleague at the end of last year but he didn't understand what they were
>> at the time so didn't give them much thought.  I showed him the website
>> this morning and he remembered he had some.
>>
>> A small word of warning on RackStuds is that they don't fit our Hallam
>> Channel Rack (http://www.thehallamgroup.com/item/channel-racks).  I
>> thought we were going mad for a while, but on closer inspection because the
>> vertical rails that the holes are punched into is actually the structure of
>> the rack it appears they use a slightly thicker rail, and as a result the
>> RackStud can't get all the way through the hole which prevents it from
>> pivoting to allow the other side to clip in.  Looking at the website it
>> appears RackStuds can accommodate a rail thickness up to 2.2mm.  The Hallam
>> site doesn't say what theirs is, but hopefully this warning might save a
>> sad nogger or two in a couple of weeks if they haven't checked if their
>> rails are compatible.
>>
>> With that said, we tried it on one of our conventional Hallam racks and
>> it practically fell into the hole.  Not bad at all.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> James.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Nathan Le Nevez
>> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 7:42 PM
>> To: Mark ZZZ Smith; James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam
>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>>
>> Nexus 7ks don't fit in our 1050mm racks unless the front and rear rack
>> doors are removed!
>>
>> 5k's aren’t much better either...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark ZZZ Smith [mailto:markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au]
>> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 6:41 PM
>> To: Nathan Le Nevez; James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam
>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Nathan Le Nevez <nathan at lenevez.net.au>
>> > To: Mark ZZZ Smith <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>; James Hodgkinson
>> > <yaleman at ricetek.net>; Mark Dignam <mark at innaloo.net>
>> > Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> > Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 4:37 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>> >
>> >>  Have never had these sorts of issues with comms gear.
>> >
>> > Then you have never racked a Cisco Nexus... :)
>> >
>> >
>>
>> True. How big was it? If it is so big that it needs special rack mount
>> kit then I think a chassis failure requiring replacement will cause a too
>> large a MTTR and require too many people.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> > Mark ZZZ Smith
>> > Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 1:58 PM
>> > To: James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam
>> > Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> ________________________________
>> >>  From: James Hodgkinson <yaleman at ricetek.net>
>> >> To: Mark Dignam <mark at innaloo.net>
>> >> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 9:34 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Were they the ones with the stupid blue plastic bits you have to push
>> >> to
>> > make them unlock? They're great until you have to move them once or
>> > twice, then they're horrible. :(
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> James
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 5 January 2014 00:58, Mark Dignam <mark at innaloo.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Or, there will some equipment manufacturer who demands that their
>> >> equipment
>> > is mounted using M7 bolts because of its weight loading.
>> >>>
>> >>> On the other hand, we could just demand something like some of the
>> > current IBM kit, I just installed a clients SAN, it was all ‘snap in’
>> > slide rails, no screws required.
>> >>>
>> >
>> > I've had very little to do with installing this sort of server gear,
>> > however I've already seen enough variation and incompatibility just
>> > across a few Dell and HP pizza box and blade chassis with standard and
>> > common racks that I already know it isn't as easy as it sounds. Common
>> > 800mm racks usually aren't deep enough, sometimes they are but you
>> > have to move the rails, which is only easy if there is nothing else in
>> > the rack, sometimes 900mm aren't deep enought etc.
>> >
>> > The server design people should pick a standard, *single* rack size
>> > and design to fit in it, and they should go more RUs higher rather
>> > than deeper if they haven't got room.
>> >
>> > Have never had these sorts of issues with comms gear.
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> From:AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> >>> Robert
>> > Hudson
>> >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2014 11:49 AM
>> >>>
>> >>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> >>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME
>> >>>
>> >>> All good until some gumby cross-threads something and reams thread
>> >>> out
>> > of the rail...
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4 January 2014 13:46, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 9:37 am, Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood at yahoo.co.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  But up-down only works where there's some space to work in. I
>> > doubt the original designers envisaged the rack cramming that we're
>> > all used to.
>> >>> If only rack rails were manufactured with tapped M6 holes instead of
>> > square holes big enough to accept cage nut clips. Then we wouldn't
>> > need the nuts at all.
>> >>>
>> >>>    - mark
>> >>>
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