<div dir="ltr"><div>not sure what rack we've got. they are all unbranded and were installed well before my time.<br><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM, James Morgan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:James.Morgan@vernet.com.au" target="_blank">James.Morgan@vernet.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have a feeling you might have the same issue we did. I have since tried ours in a couple of other racks with variable results, albeit mostly tending toward the ‘very easy’ end of the scale.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Any word on what sort of rack you’re using?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">James.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Barnes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 14 January 2014 11:46 AM</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><p></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">My RackStud sample packs arrived.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
Just had a go at installing them in a few of our racks. Damn they are tight.<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Took a lot of effort to get them installed and removing them required tools...almost as difficult as installing cage nuts.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">could just be the racks/frames we're using.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM, James Morgan <<a href="mailto:James.Morgan@vernet.com.au" target="_blank">James.Morgan@vernet.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
Turns out our friends at Hallam had dropped some samples in for a colleague at the end of last year but he didn't understand what they were at the time so didn't give them much thought. I showed him the website this morning and he remembered he had some.<br>
<br>A small word of warning on RackStuds is that they don't fit our Hallam Channel Rack (<a href="http://www.thehallamgroup.com/item/channel-racks" target="_blank">http://www.thehallamgroup.com/item/channel-racks</a>). I thought we were going mad for a while, but on closer inspection because the vertical rails that the holes are punched into is actually the structure of the rack it appears they use a slightly thicker rail, and as a result the RackStud can't get all the way through the hole which prevents it from pivoting to allow the other side to clip in. Looking at the website it appears RackStuds can accommodate a rail thickness up to 2.2mm. The Hallam site doesn't say what theirs is, but hopefully this warning might save a sad nogger or two in a couple of weeks if they haven't checked if their rails are compatible.<br>
<br>With that said, we tried it on one of our conventional Hallam racks and it practically fell into the hole. Not bad at all.<br><br>Cheers,<br>James.<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Nathan Le Nevez<br>Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 7:42 PM<br>To: Mark ZZZ Smith; James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME<br><br>Nexus 7ks don't fit in our 1050mm racks unless the front and rear rack doors are removed!<br>
<br>5k's aren’t much better either...<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Mark ZZZ Smith [mailto:<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>]<br>Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 6:41 PM<br>
To: Nathan Le Nevez; James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME<br><br><br><br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: Nathan Le Nevez <<a href="mailto:nathan@lenevez.net.au" target="_blank">nathan@lenevez.net.au</a>><br>> To: Mark ZZZ Smith <<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>>; James Hodgkinson<br>
> <<a href="mailto:yaleman@ricetek.net" target="_blank">yaleman@ricetek.net</a>>; Mark Dignam <<a href="mailto:mark@innaloo.net" target="_blank">mark@innaloo.net</a>><br>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 4:37 PM<br>> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME<br>><br>>> Have never had these sorts of issues with comms gear.<br>><br>> Then you have never racked a Cisco Nexus... :)<br>
><br>> <br><br>True. How big was it? If it is so big that it needs special rack mount kit then I think a chassis failure requiring replacement will cause a too large a MTTR and require too many people.<br><br><br>><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of<br>> Mark ZZZ Smith<br>> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 1:58 PM<br>
> To: James Hodgkinson; Mark Dignam<br>> Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>
><br>><br>>> ________________________________<br>>> From: James Hodgkinson <<a href="mailto:yaleman@ricetek.net" target="_blank">yaleman@ricetek.net</a>><br>>> To: Mark Dignam <<a href="mailto:mark@innaloo.net" target="_blank">mark@innaloo.net</a>><br>
>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>>> Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 9:34 AM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Were they the ones with the stupid blue plastic bits you have to push<br>>> to<br>> make them unlock? They're great until you have to move them once or<br>
> twice, then they're horrible. :(<br>>><br>>><br>>> James<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On 5 January 2014 00:58, Mark Dignam <<a href="mailto:mark@innaloo.net" target="_blank">mark@innaloo.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>> Or, there will some equipment manufacturer who demands that their<br>>> equipment<br>> is mounted using M7 bolts because of its weight loading.<br>>>> <br>>>> On the other hand, we could just demand something like some of the<br>
> current IBM kit, I just installed a clients SAN, it was all ‘snap in’<br>> slide rails, no screws required.<br>>>> <br>><br>> I've had very little to do with installing this sort of server gear,<br>
> however I've already seen enough variation and incompatibility just<br>> across a few Dell and HP pizza box and blade chassis with standard and<br>> common racks that I already know it isn't as easy as it sounds. Common<br>
> 800mm racks usually aren't deep enough, sometimes they are but you<br>> have to move the rails, which is only easy if there is nothing else in<br>> the rack, sometimes 900mm aren't deep enought etc.<br>
><br>> The server design people should pick a standard, *single* rack size<br>> and design to fit in it, and they should go more RUs higher rather<br>> than deeper if they haven't got room.<br>><br>> Have never had these sorts of issues with comms gear.<br>
><br>>>> <br>>>> From:AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of<br>>>> Robert<br>> Hudson<br>>>> Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2014 11:49 AM<br>
>>><br>>>> To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Rack Studs - AWESOME<br>>>> <br>>>> All good until some gumby cross-threads something and reams thread<br>
>>> out<br>> of the rail...<br>>>> <br>>>> On 4 January 2014 13:46, Mark Newton <<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org" target="_blank">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>><br>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 9:37 am, Lloyd Wood <<a href="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> But up-down only works where there's some space to work in. I<br>
> doubt the original designers envisaged the rack cramming that we're<br>> all used to.<br>>>> If only rack rails were manufactured with tapped M6 holes instead of<br>> square holes big enough to accept cage nut clips. Then we wouldn't<br>
> need the nuts at all.<br>>>><br>>>> - mark<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> AusNOG mailing list<br>>>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
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