[AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention
Matt Perkins
matt at spectrum.com.au
Thu Aug 7 09:30:43 EST 2014
You know after reading Gordie Guy's piece I noted the bit about outing
every gay guy. That logic could be applied to a lot of different private
information that could be made public by leakers or hackers. The Irony
does not escape me that currently the person that leaked details about
Tony Abbot's daughter's scholarship is facing "Hacking" chargers. Im
sure there's a lot of stuff the public would love to know about Polly's
and their families. Just waiting for the first breach of this treasure
trove of information.
Let's try out some headlines.
Russian crime gang hack's ISP-X's - Users blackmailed.
ISP-X's Whistle blower implicates senior minister in internet trolling
drama.
Hacked Metadata shows Top Sydney Radio personality visiting questionable
about kittens.
I want a credit on those Rupert . .
Matt.
On 7/08/2014 8:49 am, thelionroars wrote:
> Excellent article in The Guardian by Geordie Guy:
> http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/06/you-want-my-metadata-george-brandis-get-a-warrant
>
> When you can use the metaphor of a panopticon and not be overblown,
> it's truly sad.
>
>
> On 7 August 2014 00:22, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com
> <mailto:the.damo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Because an Amazon account has never been hacked and services
> de-provisioned. Also i really dont feel comfortable with my ISP
> giving my sovereign information to an international entity with no
> legal protections for foreigners because of some local law (US
> constitution only applies to US citizens).
>
> --Damian
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Bradley Amm
> <Bradley.Amm at homegroupwa.com.au
> <mailto:Bradley.Amm at homegroupwa.com.au>> wrote:
>
> Again Amazon Glaicer would be perfect for that purpose "Does
> it need to be backed up / Diverse / SLA ? ? What if it's
> hacked ? Can I go to jail because ASIO want's something from
> 1.5 years ago and I go to get it and the disk's died."
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Bradley Amm
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Matt
> Perkins
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 1:31 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention
>
> Im with Ross on this one. Let's give them a mirror port and
> they can make their own arrangement's the cost of this to most
> at the egress points would be minimal I would think.
>
> Then <insert new agency> would need to build fiber to every
> ISP and
> store it all. When the government say. We cant do that it's to
> expensive. Then they have made their own argument for why we
> cant do it .
>
> Case solved.
>
> I also wonder what the penalties are for loosing all this
> data. Does it
> need to be backed up / Diverse / SLA ? ? What if it's hacked ?
> Can I
> go to jail because ASIO want's something from 1.5 years ago
> and I go to get it and the disk's died. ?
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
> On 6/08/2014 1:38 pm, Ross Wheeler wrote:
> >
> >
> >> So i see they keep saying data will be held for 2 years,
> does this
> >> include full url history as well? Because in the UK they
> went for
> >> just 4 days retention, presumably because of the absurd
> amount of
> >> data that would mean they would have to collect. Anyone
> have any idea
> >> how much data that would be? I suspect it is a great time
> to be a
> >> storage vendor.
> >
> > I wonder how we'd go... if we told 'em to "provide us an
> ethernet port
> > where we just squirt the data to" and let them concern
> themselves with
> > the cost and logistics of providing the bandwidth and storage.
> >
> > If they under-provision and lose data: problem belong them.
> > If they have storage problems: problem belong them.
> > If they have equipment breakdowns: problem belong them.
> > If they can't read data due to encryption: problem belong them.
> >
> > Sell it to them on the grounds that they'd have the data in
> (near)
> > real-time.
> >
> > (Not that I agree with or support this nonsense idea in any
> way, shape
> > or form to begin with... just looking for a way for them to
> realise
> > themselves the enormity and futility of the task)
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