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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You know after reading Gordie Guy's
piece I noted the bit about outing every gay guy. That logic could
be applied to a lot of different private information that could be
made public by leakers or hackers. The Irony does not escape me
that currently the person that leaked details about Tony Abbot's
daughter's scholarship is facing "Hacking" chargers. Im sure
there's a lot of stuff the public would love to know about Polly's
and their families. Just waiting for the first breach of this
treasure trove of information.<br>
<br>
Let's try out some headlines. <br>
<br>
Russian crime gang hack's ISP-X's - Users blackmailed. <br>
ISP-X's Whistle blower implicates senior minister in internet
trolling drama. <br>
Hacked Metadata shows Top Sydney Radio personality visiting
questionable about kittens. <br>
<br>
<br>
I want a credit on those Rupert . . <br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
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<br>
On 7/08/2014 8:49 am, thelionroars wrote:<br>
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<div>Excellent article in The Guardian by Geordie Guy: <a
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href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/06/you-want-my-metadata-george-brandis-get-a-warrant">http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/06/you-want-my-metadata-george-brandis-get-a-warrant</a><br>
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When you can use the metaphor of a panopticon and not be
overblown, it's truly sad.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 7 August 2014 00:22, Damian Guppy <span
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<div dir="ltr">Because an Amazon account has never been
hacked and services de-provisioned. Also i really dont
feel comfortable with my ISP giving my sovereign
information to an international entity with no legal
protections for foreigners because of some local law (US
constitution only applies to US citizens).<span
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:37
PM, Bradley Amm <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:Bradley.Amm@homegroupwa.com.au"
target="_blank">Bradley.Amm@homegroupwa.com.au</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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Amazon Glaicer would be perfect for that purpose
"Does it need to be backed up / Diverse / SLA ? ?
What if it's hacked ? Can I go to jail because
ASIO want's something from 1.5 years ago and I go
to get it and the disk's died."<br>
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Kind Regards<br>
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Bradley Amm<br>
11 Delawney St Balcatta WA 6021<br>
P <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:08%206241%204404"
value="+61862414404" target="_blank">08 6241
4404</a> F 6241 4455 M <a
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href="tel:0448%20815%20710"
value="+61448815710" target="_blank">0448 815
710</a><br>
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target="_blank">www.homegroupwa.com.au</a><br>
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On Behalf Of Matt Perkins<br>
Sent: Wednesday, 6 August 2014 1:31 PM<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention<br>
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<div>Im with Ross on this one. Let's give them a
mirror port and they can make their own
arrangement's the cost of this to most at the
egress points would be minimal I would think.<br>
<br>
Then <insert new agency> would need to
build fiber to every ISP and<br>
store it all. When the government say. We cant
do that it's to expensive. Then they have made
their own argument for why we cant do it .<br>
<br>
Case solved.<br>
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I also wonder what the penalties are for
loosing all this data. Does it<br>
need to be backed up / Diverse / SLA ? ? What
if it's hacked ? Can I<br>
go to jail because ASIO want's something from
1.5 years ago and I go to get it and the
disk's died. ?<br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
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On 6/08/2014 1:38 pm, Ross Wheeler wrote:<br>
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>> So i see they keep saying data will
be held for 2 years, does this<br>
>> include full url history as well?
Because in the UK they went for<br>
>> just 4 days retention, presumably
because of the absurd amount of<br>
>> data that would mean they would have
to collect. Anyone have any idea<br>
>> how much data that would be? I
suspect it is a great time to be a<br>
>> storage vendor.<br>
><br>
> I wonder how we'd go... if we told 'em to
"provide us an ethernet port<br>
> where we just squirt the data to" and let
them concern themselves with<br>
> the cost and logistics of providing the
bandwidth and storage.<br>
><br>
> If they under-provision and lose data:
problem belong them.<br>
> If they have storage problems: problem
belong them.<br>
> If they have equipment breakdowns:
problem belong them.<br>
> If they can't read data due to
encryption: problem belong them.<br>
><br>
> Sell it to them on the grounds that
they'd have the data in (near)<br>
> real-time.<br>
><br>
> (Not that I agree with or support this
nonsense idea in any way, shape<br>
> or form to begin with... just looking for
a way for them to realise<br>
> themselves the enormity and futility of
the task)<br>
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