[AusNOG] (Meta-)Data Retention

[Skeeve Stevens]

And if the data is lost... then WHO goes to jail?  Some Director who has
never touched a server/device? Or some poor network/server admin?

Does anyone have any information on what they do in the UK if the data is
lost?


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On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:

> Im with Ross on this one. Let's give them a mirror port and they can make
> their own arrangement's the cost of this to most at the egress points would
> be minimal I would think.
>
> Then <insert new agency> would need to build fiber to every ISP   and
> store it all. When the government say. We cant do that it's to expensive.
> Then they have made their own argument for why we cant do it .
>
> Case solved.
>
> I also wonder what the penalties are for loosing all this data. Does it
> need to be backed up / Diverse / SLA ? ? What if it's hacked ?   Can I go
> to jail because ASIO want's something from 1.5 years ago and I go to get it
> and the disk's died. ?
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
>  On 6/08/2014 1:38 pm, Ross Wheeler wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  So i see they keep saying data will be held for 2 years, does this
>>> include
>>> full url history as well? Because in the UK they went for just 4 days
>>> retention, presumably because of the absurd amount of data that would
>>> mean
>>> they would have to collect. Anyone have any idea how much data that would
>>> be? I suspect it is a great time to be a storage vendor.
>>>
>>
>> I wonder how we'd go... if we told 'em to "provide us an ethernet port
>> where we just squirt the data to" and let them concern themselves with the
>> cost and logistics of providing the bandwidth and storage.
>>
>> If they under-provision and lose data: problem belong them.
>> If they have storage problems: problem belong them.
>> If they have equipment breakdowns: problem belong them.
>> If they can't read data due to encryption: problem belong them.
>>
>> Sell it to them on the grounds that they'd have the data in (near)
>> real-time.
>>
>> (Not that I agree with or support this nonsense idea in any way, shape or
>> form to begin with... just looking for a way for them to realise themselves
>> the enormity and futility of the task)
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