[AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We'll do our own FTTB

[Nick Gale]

We do. On the current estimates the difference between the two plans
FTTN/FTTH is what 600 million over the life of the project. Chump change
over 10 years.

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On 17 September 2013 19:34, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au> wrote:

> So who pays the interest Nick?****
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> *From:* Nick Gale [mailto:nickgale at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:13 PM
> *To:* Paul Wallace
> *Cc:* Robert Hudson; Tom Lanyon; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We'll do our own FTTB****
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> Actually you have an error there. In both models the tax payer pays
> nothing. The build is funded by govt debt.****
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> Yes you end up paying it back but not through tax through service charges.
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> On 17/09/2013, at 5:04 PM, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au> wrote:*
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> TPG build it & if the offer is then low cost plus very fast, people will
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> In those circumstances the tax payers pay nothing****
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> In the Conroy model …****
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> The tax payers pay for 100%****
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> All fresh competition, possibly including the TPG FTTB rollout is banned**
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> All copper is disconnected****
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> All HFC is disconnected****
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> .. thus allowing Mr Conroy to triple the price, provide lousy service via
> ‘the PMG-2” and you get the worlds most expensive broadband.****
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> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> *On Behalf Of *Robert Hudson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:55 PM
> *To:* Tom Lanyon
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We’ll do our own FTTB****
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> Of course it has an impact on the NBN. The NBNs price model is, amongst
> other things, dependant on scale and the number of premises connected.
> Reduce that number by a few million, and the per-port price will rise
> significantly, and those in less profitable areas ("the bush" as an
> example), won't have their pricing subsidised by the commercially lucrative
> connections (in "the city)".****
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> On 17/09/2013 6:47 PM, "Tom Lanyon" <tom+ausnog at oneshoeco.com> wrote:****
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> On 17/09/2013, at 6:09 PM, Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com> wrote:
> > On 17/09/2013, at 5:14 PM, Nick Gale <nickgale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Are you saying we should have the ability for NBN competitors? If so
> why?
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> > Because if you don't then private enterprise will build a bunch of
> little fiefdoms where it will be uneconomical for anybody else to try to
> take market share with diminishing returns, and as a bonus all those areas
> in "the bush"       that the population as a whole is rather fond of won't
> get any services at all because its not "economic" to do so.
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> None of which would be an issue, assuming that this is all occurring in
> parallel to the NBN, right?
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