[AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We'll do our own FTTB

[Paul Wallace]

So who pays the interest Nick?



From: Nick Gale [mailto:nickgale at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:13 PM
To: Paul Wallace
Cc: Robert Hudson; Tom Lanyon; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We'll do our own FTTB

Actually you have an error there. In both models the tax payer pays nothing. The build is funded by govt debt.

Yes you end up paying it back but not through tax through service charges.

Nick Gale

E: nick.gale at westernpower.com.au<mailto:nick.gale at westernpower.com.au>

On 17/09/2013, at 5:04 PM, Paul Wallace <paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au<mailto:paul.wallace at mtgi.com.au>> wrote:
Version 1...
TPG build it & if the offer is then low cost plus very fast, people will buy it.
In those circumstances the tax payers pay nothing


In the Conroy model ...
The tax payers pay for 100%
All fresh competition, possibly including the TPG FTTB rollout is banned
All copper is disconnected
All HFC is disconnected
.. thus allowing Mr Conroy to triple the price, provide lousy service via 'the PMG-2" and you get the worlds most expensive broadband.







From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Robert Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:55 PM
To: Tom Lanyon
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG: We'll do our own FTTB


Of course it has an impact on the NBN. The NBNs price model is, amongst other things, dependant on scale and the number of premises connected. Reduce that number by a few million, and the per-port price will rise significantly, and those in less profitable areas ("the bush" as an example), won't have their pricing subsidised by the commercially lucrative connections (in "the city)".
On 17/09/2013 6:47 PM, "Tom Lanyon" <tom+ausnog at oneshoeco.com<mailto:tom%2Bausnog at oneshoeco.com>> wrote:
On 17/09/2013, at 6:09 PM, Jake Anderson <yahoo at vapourforge.com<mailto:yahoo at vapourforge.com>> wrote:
> On 17/09/2013, at 5:14 PM, Nick Gale <nickgale at gmail.com<mailto:nickgale at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Are you saying we should have the ability for NBN competitors? If so why?
>
> Because if you don't then private enterprise will build a bunch of little fiefdoms where it will be uneconomical for anybody else to try to take market share with diminishing returns, and as a bonus all those areas in "the bush"       that the population as a whole is rather fond of won't get any services at all because its not "economic" to do so.

None of which would be an issue, assuming that this is all occurring in parallel to the NBN, right?

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