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[Jacob Gardiner]

I would if i had time.

It just seems like common sense to me, Seems a bit.. political to have so
debate/discussion around policy when at the end of the day common sense
would probably answer a lot of questions.

No buying/selling IP resources for a fee, regardless of how good your
acquisition lawyer is. Period.
Justify them, or hand them back.
Review process commences when an acquisition or transfer is initiated.

Might be time for a branch in the email chain for this next comment - but
with ipv6, doesn't it seem a little wasteful assigning 18 quntillion IPs to
my non-technical mother's ADSL service? Even if she bought 'all of the
things' and connected all of them to myface.com, we're going to be wasting
a lot of resources.. Right?


On 21 January 2013 16:00, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellego.net>wrote:

> Jacob,
>
> And I fully encourage you to get involved in the APNIC policy process.  We
> have a deadline coming up in a week or so.  Feel free to propose any policy
> you like.
>
> Perhaps you should join sig-policy and start a conversation about the
> topic if you feel passionate about it.
> http://www.apnic.net/community/participate/join-discussions
>
> Honestly though, this discussion has already really happened over the past
> couple of years as we've been planning for the situation for a long time
> now.
>
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> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Jacob Gardiner <jacob at jacobgardiner.com>wrote:
>
>> Although I know there's always going to be loopholes when there's
>> situations where companies start acquiring companies (Like what Microsoft
>> did) in order to acquire assets, including IP resources, I think the
>> process of buying and selling should probably be governed by the regional
>> internet registry. Streamline the process as much as possible but properly
>> evaluate the requirement for acquiring the IP addresses and make sure the
>> motive isn't to simply buy and sell.
>>
>> Would it be tedious? Yes.
>> Is it required? I think so, yes.
>>
>> IPv4 is going to be a sheetfight over the next few years unless trade is
>> regulated. Those of us who will legitimately need more address space are
>> doomed whilst these "brokers" who actually provide no value to what we do
>> collect a cheque on the way through.
>>
>> If company X no longer requires the resources, surely their
>> 'justification' for the allocation is no longer valid.
>>
>>
>> On 21 January 2013 09:32, Scott Howard <scott at doc.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellego.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why is the parallel not good?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because it's completely pointless to compare two different products,
>>> both of which have their own terms and conditions.  It's those terms and
>>> conditions that will control things like whether you can transfer them
>>> between entities, not the fact that they are both things that happen to be
>>> used on the Internet.
>>>
>>> As it happens, both sets to terms and condition do happen to have rules
>>> around transfer, but that doesn't make the analogy good.
>>>
>>>   Scott
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