<div dir="ltr">I would if i had time. <div><br></div><div style>It just seems like common sense to me, Seems a bit.. political to have so debate/discussion around policy when at the end of the day common sense would probably answer a lot of questions.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>No buying/selling IP resources for a fee, regardless of how good your acquisition lawyer is. Period.</div><div style>Justify them, or hand them back. </div><div style>Review process commences when an acquisition or transfer is initiated.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Might be time for a branch in the email chain for this next comment - but with ipv6, doesn't it seem a little wasteful assigning 18 quntillion IPs to my non-technical mother's ADSL service? Even if she bought 'all of the things' and connected all of them to <a href="http://myface.com">myface.com</a>, we're going to be wasting a lot of resources.. Right? </div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 January 2013 16:00, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jacob,<div><br></div><div>And I fully encourage you to get involved in the APNIC policy process. We have a deadline coming up in a week or so. Feel free to propose any policy you like.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Perhaps you should join sig-policy and start a conversation about the topic if you feel passionate about it. <a href="http://www.apnic.net/community/participate/join-discussions" target="_blank">http://www.apnic.net/community/participate/join-discussions</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Honestly though, this discussion has already really happened over the past couple of years as we've been planning for the situation for a long time now.</div><div><br></div><div><div class="im"><br clear="all">
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<br><br></div><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Jacob Gardiner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jacob@jacobgardiner.com" target="_blank">jacob@jacobgardiner.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Although I know there's always going to be loopholes when there's situations where companies start acquiring companies (Like what Microsoft did) in order to acquire assets, including IP resources, I think the process of buying and selling should probably be governed by the regional internet registry. Streamline the process as much as possible but properly evaluate the requirement for acquiring the IP addresses and make sure the motive isn't to simply buy and sell. <br>
<div><br></div><div>Would it be tedious? Yes. </div><div>Is it required? I think so, yes. </div><div><br></div><div>IPv4 is going to be a sheetfight over the next few years unless trade is regulated. Those of us who will legitimately need more address space are doomed whilst these "brokers" who actually provide no value to what we do collect a cheque on the way through.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If company X no longer requires the resources, surely their 'justification' for the allocation is no longer valid.</div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 21 January 2013 09:32, Scott Howard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott@doc.net.au" target="_blank">scott@doc.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
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<div>Why is the parallel not good?</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Because it's completely pointless to compare two different products, both of which have their own terms and conditions. It's those terms and conditions that will control things like whether you can transfer them between entities, not the fact that they are both things that happen to be used on the Internet.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As it happens, both sets to terms and condition do happen to have rules around transfer, but that doesn't make the analogy good.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>
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