[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.

Sat Apr 13 10:34:23 EST 2013

Interesting that I can get to it via my Telstra connection here (loads ok in browser too)

Traceroute to melbournefreeuniversity.org (198.136.54.104), 64 hops max.
1  () time=49 ms
2 172.18.212.5 (172.18.212.5) time=18 ms
3 172.18.69.114 (172.18.69.114) time=15 ms
4 172.18.241.101 (172.18.241.101) time=18 ms
5 bundle-ether10.cha45.brisbane.telstra.net (203.45.53.237) time=20 ms
6 bundle-ether2.cha-core4.brisbane.telstra.net (203.50.44.13) time=18 ms
7 bundle-ether11.ken-core4.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.72) time=37 ms
8 bundle-ether1.pad-gw2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.29) time=29 ms
9 203.50.13.118 (203.50.13.118) time=23 ms
10 i-0-3-0-5.paix-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.144.157) time=214 ms
11 i-0-0-0-0.eqnx-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.140.142) time=276 ms
12 i-0-0-0-0.eqnx03.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.251.85) time=378 ms
13 l3-peer.eqnx03.pr.telstraglobal.net (134.159.62.198) time=266 ms
14 vlan60.csw1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.152.62) time=264 ms
15 ae-61-61.ebr1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.153.1) time=261 ms
16 ae-5-5.ebr1.sanjose5.level3.net (4.69.148.137) time=301 ms
17 ae-1-100.ebr2.sanjose5.level3.net (4.69.148.110) time=308 ms
18 ae-6-6.ebr2.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.148.201) time=255 ms
19 ae-3-3.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.132.78) time=262 ms
20 ae-7-7.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.134.22) time=296 ms
21 ae-63-63.ebr1.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.148.242) time=296 ms
22 ae-1-8.bar1.orlando1.level3.net (4.69.137.149) time=271 ms
23 *
24 active.host-care.com (198.136.54.104) time=313 ms 
*** Traceroute at destination ***

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On 11/04/2013, at 6:23 PM, Ben O'Hara <bohara at apnic.net> wrote:

> For whats its worth I can get to it over TPG dsl at home, but from the
> office, using telstra transit it appears blocked somewhere with telstra.
> 
> Ben
> 
> On 11/04/2013 18:02, "Skeeve Stevens"
> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes.  AAPT, man up and tell us what is going on.
>> 
>> 
>> If you can't, tell us who can, and we will pursue them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ...Skeeve
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>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Tim March
>> <march.tim at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this point are;
>> 
>>   1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic to IP addresses? Are
>> you voluntarily complying with some sort of government filtering
>> initiative or doing so at the request of some other law enforcement
>> agency - eg, AFP, as some people have suggested ?
>> 
>>   2. How are requests to block particular IP addresses processed - Are
>> you provided with a complete list from $Organisation/$Agency from time to
>> time, or do you add individual /32 or other blocks to the list as
>> requested ?
>> 
>>   3. Who is responsibly for the administration of that list at both the
>> presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?
>> 
>>   4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently blocking either
>> voluntarily or in compliance with whatever LEA request ?
>> 
>>   5. Is this list made publicly available for review? If it's not
>> already published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT willing to provide a
>> copy of the current list for review ?
>> 
>> Obviously most members of the list can take fairly educated guesses at
>> most of the above, but I'd like a specific, public answer from either
>> AAPT or another carrier to each of the questions...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> T.
>> 
>> On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Wouldn't they need to tell all carriage service providers. We can still
>> get to it via one of our other links. If we dont know we have to block it
>> how would we do so.  Also you can add pipe to the list looks like they
>> are blocking it as well.
>> 
>> Matt.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:
>> 
>> That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely scenario is the AFP can
>> issue direction that an ISP "take reasonable steps to uphold the law" and
>> they're issued that here with an IP as the target.
>> On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy" <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Given all the people saying internode / iinet works fine, and their
>> market size, I would have to think we are looking at a voluntary
>> implementation of a government filter. Which I think is pretty poor form
>> for Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing
>> their (ineffective) filter onto their downstream customers without any
>> sort of acknowledgement. This is probably one of thoes things that needs
>> to blow up on whirlpool to get a real response out of whoever as to what
>> is happening.
>> 
>> 
>> Of course, if this is a new addition to the rumored mandatory blacklist
>> that all ISP's have to adhear to it could just be iiNet havent updated
>> their tables. 
>> 
>> 
>> --Damian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin Donald-Wilson
>> <benny at thesii.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Yep, works from a friend's Internode connection in Sydney.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N <ausnog at equisoft.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin Donald-Wilson wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I just got someone to check the website though his University
>> of Queensland VPN. He says he can access it though that but not directly
>> though his normal Bigpond internet connection.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy & TOR network. If these idiot
>> politicians think they can stop anyone getting to anywhere, they are
>> deluded. A 12 year old could get past this "block". This is what comes of
>> having clueless politicians trying to "regulate"
>> something that they have never used. They will only be happy when they
>> block /0
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yep, no doubt a 12 year old could get past the block, I'm only a few
>> years older then that.
>> 
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