[AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.
Heinz N
ausnog at equisoft.com.au
Sat Apr 13 10:41:26 EST 2013
How strange, I can now get there too. I definately couldn't before. I get
a simliar traceroute to one below. Maybe the BGP blackhole entry was just
a mistake?? Or maybe all the attention has caused a bit of an "oops"
somewhere.
Heinz N.
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013, Dan wrote:
> Interesting that I can get to it via my Telstra connection here (loads ok in
> browser too)
>
> Traceroute to melbournefreeuniversity.org (198.136.54.104), 64 hops max.
> 1 () time=49 ms
> 2 172.18.212.5 (172.18.212.5) time=18 ms
> 3 172.18.69.114 (172.18.69.114) time=15 ms
> 4 172.18.241.101 (172.18.241.101) time=18 ms
> 5 bundle-ether10.cha45.brisbane.telstra.net (203.45.53.237) time=20 ms
> 6 bundle-ether2.cha-core4.brisbane.telstra.net (203.50.44.13) time=18 ms
> 7 bundle-ether11.ken-core4.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.11.72) time=37 ms
> 8 bundle-ether1.pad-gw2.sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.29) time=29 ms
> 9 203.50.13.118 (203.50.13.118) time=23 ms
> 10 i-0-3-0-5.paix-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net (202.84.144.157) time=214 ms
> 11 i-0-0-0-0.eqnx-core01.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.140.142) time=276 ms
> 12 i-0-0-0-0.eqnx03.bi.telstraglobal.net (202.84.251.85) time=378 ms
> 13 l3-peer.eqnx03.pr.telstraglobal.net (134.159.62.198) time=266 ms
> 14 vlan60.csw1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.152.62) time=264 ms
> 15 ae-61-61.ebr1.sanjose1.level3.net (4.69.153.1) time=261 ms
> 16 ae-5-5.ebr1.sanjose5.level3.net (4.69.148.137) time=301 ms
> 17 ae-1-100.ebr2.sanjose5.level3.net (4.69.148.110) time=308 ms
> 18 ae-6-6.ebr2.losangeles1.level3.net (4.69.148.201) time=255 ms
> 19 ae-3-3.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net (4.69.132.78) time=262 ms
> 20 ae-7-7.ebr3.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.134.22) time=296 ms
> 21 ae-63-63.ebr1.atlanta2.level3.net (4.69.148.242) time=296 ms
> 22 ae-1-8.bar1.orlando1.level3.net (4.69.137.149) time=271 ms
> 23 *
> 24 active.host-care.com (198.136.54.104) time=313 ms
> *** Traceroute at destination ***
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 11/04/2013, at 6:23 PM, Ben O'Hara <bohara at apnic.net> wrote:
>
> For whats its worth I can get to it over TPG dsl at home, but
> from the
> office, using telstra transit it appears blocked somewhere with
> telstra.
>
> Ben
>
> On 11/04/2013 18:02, "Skeeve Stevens"
> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
> Yes. AAPT, man up and tell us what is going on.
>
>
>
> If you can't, tell us who can, and we will pursue
> them.
>
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Tim March
>
> <march.tim at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this
> point are;
>
>
> 1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic
> to IP addresses? Are
>
> you voluntarily complying with some sort of
> government filtering
>
> initiative or doing so at the request of some other
> law enforcement
>
> agency - eg, AFP, as some people have suggested ?
>
>
> 2. How are requests to block particular IP
> addresses processed - Are
>
> you provided with a complete list from
> $Organisation/$Agency from time to
>
> time, or do you add individual /32 or other blocks
> to the list as
>
> requested ?
>
>
> 3. Who is responsibly for the administration of
> that list at both the
>
> presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?
>
>
> 4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently
> blocking either
>
> voluntarily or in compliance with whatever LEA
> request ?
>
>
> 5. Is this list made publicly available for
> review? If it's not
>
> already published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT
> willing to provide a
>
> copy of the current list for review ?
>
>
> Obviously most members of the list can take fairly
> educated guesses at
>
> most of the above, but I'd like a specific, public
> answer from either
>
> AAPT or another carrier to each of the questions...
>
>
>
>
> T.
>
>
> On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
>
>
>
> Wouldn't they need to tell all carriage service
> providers. We can still
>
> get to it via one of our other links. If we dont
> know we have to block it
>
> how would we do so. Also you can add pipe to the
> list looks like they
>
> are blocking it as well.
>
>
> Matt.
>
>
>
> On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:
>
>
> That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely
> scenario is the AFP can
>
> issue direction that an ISP "take reasonable steps
> to uphold the law" and
>
> they're issued that here with an IP as the target.
>
> On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy"
> <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Given all the people saying internode / iinet works
> fine, and their
>
> market size, I would have to think we are looking at
> a voluntary
>
> implementation of a government filter. Which I think
> is pretty poor form
>
> for Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing
>
> their (ineffective) filter onto their downstream
> customers without any
>
> sort of acknowledgement. This is probably one of
> thoes things that needs
>
> to blow up on whirlpool to get a real response out
> of whoever as to what
>
> is happening.
>
>
>
> Of course, if this is a new addition to the rumored
> mandatory blacklist
>
> that all ISP's have to adhear to it could just be
> iiNet havent updated
>
> their tables.
>
>
>
> --Damian
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Benjamin
> Donald-Wilson
>
> <benny at thesii.org> wrote:
>
>
> Yep, works from a friend's Internode connection in
> Sydney.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N
> <ausnog at equisoft.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin Donald-Wilson wrote:
>
>
>
> I just got someone to check the website though his
> University
>
> of Queensland VPN. He says he can access it though
> that but not directly
>
> though his normal Bigpond internet connection.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy & TOR
> network. If these idiot
>
> politicians think they can stop anyone getting to
> anywhere, they are
>
> deluded. A 12 year old could get past this "block".
> This is what comes of
>
> having clueless politicians trying to "regulate"
>
> something that they have never used. They will only
> be happy when they
>
> block /0
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yep, no doubt a 12 year old could get past the
> block, I'm only a few
>
> years older then that.
>
>
>
>
>
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