[AusNOG] VDSL2, was Re: 4G advances

Chris Ricks chris.ricks at securepay.com.au
Fri Oct 19 10:16:07 EST 2012


VDSL2 is often a decent alternative for additionally cabling MDUs or
high density buildings (motels come to mind). In fact, a few vendors
sell VDSL2 DSLAM/MSAN equipment specifically targeted at motels and
office buildings.

>From memory, there was talk of using VDSL2 in this capacity for the NBN
for some dwellings.

Chris

On 19/10/12 10:12, Guy Ellis wrote:
> I don't think we see a lot of VDSL2 in Australia because of the $
> investment required.
> Also for line lengths > 2km ADSL2+ is almost as good.
>
> Bonding ADSL2+ is a lower cost alternative as there is no need for new
> DLSAMs.
> There are a few doing this here already and elsewhere ....
> (i) http://www.iinet.net.au/business/medium/internet/bonded-dsl/
> (ii) http://www.fusionbroadband.com.au/
> (iii) http://www.sharedband.com
>
> - Guy.
>
>
> On 18/10/2012 6:34 PM, Travis wrote:
>> If we are talking advances to the ADSL/ADSL2+ part of the equation it
>> already exists VDSL2
>>
>> Dont know if it will ever come to Australia in general through.
>> (Transact use it in Canberra etc)
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 16 October 2012 21:37, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au
>> <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>     A friend just pointed out something which I was going to ask anyway.
>>
>>     There are lots of people attached to congested RIM's which have
>>     fibre backhaul to the exchange, even though the exchange is good
>>     for ADSL2+ they can't get that speed or throughput because:
>>     a) the RIM itself is congested, cards are full, etc
>>     b) even if the RIM was handling things nicely, the backhaul is
>>     congested
>>
>>     Unless the RIM's and their rollout were poorly planned, wouldn't
>>     it be a fairly simple task of either:
>>     a) replacing the optics on either end?, or
>>     b) lighting up another wavelength?
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: "Jeffrey Sims" <jeffy at tehintartubes.net
>>     <mailto:jeffy at tehintartubes.net>>
>>     To: "Kai" <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>>
>>     Cc: "ausnog" <ausnog at ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>>
>>     Sent: Tuesday, 16 October, 2012 3:09:01 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
>>     Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 4G advances
>>
>>     Kai,
>>
>>
>>     Realistically in my opinion given the investment into NBN that I
>>     wouldn't see a great large volume investment into ADSL2+
>>     connectivity. I know Telstra is still running the TOPHAT program
>>     to keep people going until NBN but I wouldn't expect to see a
>>     mass outlay unless it was absolutely necessary.
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Kai < vk6ksj at westnet.com.au
>>     <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>     With all the efforts focusing on 4G I wonder what advances are
>>     being made to ADSL2+ connectivity through RIM, etc ?
>>     http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/optus-shows-fastest-speeds-in-sydney-4g-test-20121013-27jp7.html
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