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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">VDSL2 is often a decent alternative for
additionally cabling MDUs or high density buildings (motels come
to mind). In fact, a few vendors sell VDSL2 DSLAM/MSAN equipment
specifically targeted at motels and office buildings.<br>
<br>
From memory, there was talk of using VDSL2 in this capacity for
the NBN for some dwellings.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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On 19/10/12 10:12, Guy Ellis wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I don't think we see a lot of VDSL2
in Australia because of the $ investment required.<br>
Also for line lengths > 2km ADSL2+ is almost as good.<br>
<br>
Bonding ADSL2+ is a lower cost alternative as there is no need
for new DLSAMs.<br>
There are a few doing this here already and elsewhere ....<br>
(i) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.iinet.net.au/business/medium/internet/bonded-dsl/">http://www.iinet.net.au/business/medium/internet/bonded-dsl/</a><br>
(ii) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.fusionbroadband.com.au/">http://www.fusionbroadband.com.au/</a><br>
(iii) <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.sharedband.com">http://www.sharedband.com</a><br>
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- Guy.<br>
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On 18/10/2012 6:34 PM, Travis wrote:<br>
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type="cite">If we are talking advances to the ADSL/ADSL2+ part
of the equation it already exists VDSL2<br>
<br>
Dont know if it will ever come to Australia in general through.
(Transact use it in Canberra etc)<br>
<br>
Travis<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote"> On 16 October 2012 21:37, Kai <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> A friend
just pointed out something which I was going to ask anyway.<br>
<br>
There are lots of people attached to congested RIM's which
have fibre backhaul to the exchange, even though the
exchange is good for ADSL2+ they can't get that speed or
throughput because:<br>
a) the RIM itself is congested, cards are full, etc<br>
b) even if the RIM was handling things nicely, the backhaul
is congested<br>
<br>
Unless the RIM's and their rollout were poorly planned,
wouldn't it be a fairly simple task of either:<br>
a) replacing the optics on either end?, or<br>
b) lighting up another wavelength?<br>
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<div class="im HOEnZb">Kai,<br>
<br>
<br>
Realistically in my opinion given the investment into NBN
that I wouldn't see a great large volume investment into
ADSL2+ connectivity. I know Telstra is still running the
TOPHAT program to keep people going until NBN but I
wouldn't expect to see a mass outlay unless it was
absolutely necessary.<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Kai < <a
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<div class="h5">With all the efforts focusing on 4G I
wonder what advances are being made to ADSL2+
connectivity through RIM, etc ?<br>
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