[AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic missingfrom PIPE-IX?

[Zone Networks - Joel]

Sean's idea is not a bad.

 

but I reckon the end user's, cable/adsl customer etc need to be educated
first.. about what GO4 is doing to domestic traffic

 

most gamers understand latency etc.

if you going to route GO4 traffic to US, gamers will be your best friends if
you want to cause a shit storm.

They will give GO4 support hell.

 

Gamers whinge if they is an increase in latency by 5-10 ms. we are talking
about 100ms+ here

 

To my knowledge most of the major game networks are hosted outside of GO4,
except for Game Arena

That is including major game releases from the likes of EA Sports which are
hosted privately

 

 

 

From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Joshua D'Alton
Sent: Tuesday, 13 November 2012 11:43 AM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Domestic Peering WAS: Vocus peering traffic
missingfrom PIPE-IX?

 

Well its really just economics, supply and demand (which is low in our
case).

All the Telstra gamer customers will care about latency to their game
servers, but I guess the majority of customers probably won't be impacted by
latency :/ If it was done before, when and to what result, and why isn't it
still happening if it saves costs ?

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Mark Prior <mrp at mrp.net> wrote:

On 12/11/12 8:55 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:

Anyway... Perhaps greater cooperation amongst providers in AU would be
able to breach the Reach (har har) and achieve the sort of pricing that
you see on trans-atlantic (transit basically) links::
http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com/documents/ProjectKelvin-PricingMarch20111_00
0.pdf

 

I'll leave it to Bevin to explain cable economics 101 :-)

 

Seans Idea of pumping all the traffic overseas for a week to pwn the Go4
is a great idea, what would be better is the establishment of a
"not-for-profit" consortium that got together to bully the Go4 into
submission. The best thing about it is even the dedicated server
providers that have them used by gamers won't be bearing much of a brunt
as it will be T$lstra who has to explain why latency to next door
neighbour on iiNet is being routed via SJ while iiNet customer enjoys
low latency to 90% of providers who do choose to peer. Or at least that
would be the idea (trollface), maybe someone experienced could think of
the actual ramifications and possibilities..

 

You make the flawed assumption that they care about latency to other
providers. Also been there and tried it.

Mark.



 

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