[AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

[Dmitri Kalintsev]

> There is local talk about Nextgen here

http://www.nextgennetworks.com.au/RBBP_progress.htm , updated monthly...

-- D

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Darren Moss <Darren.Moss at em3.com.au>wrote:

>  I still reckon you are better off on Telstra until a decent player comes
> along with their own backhaul.
>
> All our NT traffic goes via Adelaide then across to Sydney or down to
> Melbourne for replication.
>
> There is local talk about Nextgen here and even Amcom (they are putting in
> new kit for the Education contract), but terrain challenges getting gear and
> cables across large areas of "nothingness" are going to be tough.
>
> Cheers ;)
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> *Darren Moss
> *General Manager, Director
> [p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287
> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
>
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Curtis Bayne
> *Sent:* 2010-05-19 2:22 pm
> *To:* Kai; ausnog
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
>  "My logic suggests if Optus mobile reception is available, how is the
> mobile broadband service any different that Optus tell their staff to tell
> customers "no Optus mobile broadband here"?"
>
> Probably because the backhaul to SA/QLD (being as old as they are, there's
> a strong chance Optus may take the aging Darwin -> Isa -> Townsville route
> on Telstra's ATM network) is saturated to the hilt. $1k/Mbps and beyond for
> carriage to Darwin, is it any wonder?
>
> Curtis.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Kai
> Sent: Wed 5/19/2010 2:13 PM
> To: ausnog
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> Hey Darren,
>
> Yeah the Optus shop on Knuckey St is where I went yesterday at lunch time
> and was told "it's not available anymore and we don't have any indications
> when it will be back....but if you want you can order Optus based mobile
> through someone in another state, get them to send up the modem and then
> just hope like hell that the congestion doesn't hit too hard during peak and
> effectively be as slow as dial-up."
>
> I was at a smaller Optus shop in Casuarina the other day who also gave me
> "we have no mobile broadband here", I thought maybe the shop in the city
> might have a bit more information about why there's no mobile broadband.
>
> My logic suggests if Optus mobile reception is available, how is the mobile
> broadband service any different that Optus tell their staff to tell
> customers "no Optus mobile broadband here"?
>
> Cheers
> Kai
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Moss" <Darren.Moss at em3.com.au>
> To: "Kai" <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>, "ausnog" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010 1:34:00 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin
> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> Hi Kai,
>
> I am here in Darwin this week and just saw a bus shelter style
> advertisement for Optus Mobile Broadband ;)
> There is also an Optus business centre (shop) on Knuckey Street you
> could try.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Darren Moss
> General Manager, Director
> [p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287
> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
>
> em3 People and Technology | Managed Technology Experts
> Celebrating 10 Great Years of Service 1999-2009.
> postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
>
> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
> postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
> [p] 09 92 555 26 [f] 09 887 0273 [m] 021 841 541
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> On Behalf Of Kai
> Sent: 2010-05-19 1:57 pm
> To: ausnog
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> Thanks for all the responses, very much appreciated and I'll keep an eye
> on it.
> Would very much like to hear something from an Optus rep about their
> plans.
>
> Cheers
> Kai
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Minchin" <Tom.Minchin at csiro.au>
> To: dhooper at emerge.net.au, ausnog at ausnog.net
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 8:46:59 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> They do indeed - we use it in Darwin and Alice Springs. Telstra backhaul
> though...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>
> To: 'ausnog at ausnog.net' <ausnog at ausnog.net>
> Sent: Tue May 18 18:57:12 2010
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> And for business/enterprise customers I heard on the grape vine amcom
> has a large fibre network in the CBD of Darwin (just no cheap backhaul).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> On Behalf Of Chris Chaundy
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 6:22 PM
> To: Kai
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> On the broadband front, why do you think that Nextgen got the 'Black
> Spot' contract to run fibre up to Darwin (and lots of other places)?
>
> BTW, this is well underway.
>
> Sent by avian carrier
>
> On 18/05/2010, at 19:17, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi Darren,
> >
> > Thanks for the info...
> >
> > I was half expecting since Darwin's the capital we'd actually have
> > better non-Telstra infrastructure here but apparently not. I'm
> > guessing there are reasons (probably financially oriented) why
> > everyone's leaning on Telstra, just frustrating to not have any real
> > alternatives.
> >
> > Is there an Optus rep on list who can provide any comments?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kai
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darren Moss" <Darren.Moss at em3.com.au>
> > To: "Kai" <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>, ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 7:00:01 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne
>
> > / Sydney
> > Subject: RE: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
> >
> > Kai,
> >
> > We've been in Darwin for almost 4 years now and Telstra really is the
> > only option.
> > When we first investigated ethernet and fibre in the NT, what we found
>
> > was most providers were renting/reselling Telstra kit.
> >
> > For mobile internet, you are better off on Telstra as the service is
> > proper 3G, not 3G indicator with 2G speeds :) Our techs all originally
>
> > had 3G Optus mobile internet which had to be thrown out as the service
>
> > was terrible.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Darren Moss
> > General Manager
> > Australia and New Zealand
> > [p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287
> > [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
> >
> > em3 People and Technology | Managed Technology Experts
> > postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
> >
> > New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
> > postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
> > [p] 09 887 0550 [f] 09 887 0273
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> > [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> On Behalf Of Kai
> > Sent: 2010-05-18 4:27 pm
> > To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
> >
> > Righteo, thanks.
> > I'm interested to hear feedback from any Optus staff about their plans
>
> > with mobile broadband in this area.
> >
> > When I was on holiday in Melbourne I got 3, worked in Melb, Syd and
> > Bris but not here, even though I thought 3 use Telstra's network.
> >
> > I'm currently using Vodafone wireless broadband, sure the signal
> > usually sux and there's just enough radiation floating around to get a
>
> > reasonable connection. Telstra charge nearly twice as much for
> > recharge/monthly data allowance than any other carrier and since Optus
>
> > (and therefore Virgin, WestNet and any other Optus reseellers) don't
> > have service here, Vodafone will do.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kai
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Hooper" <dhooper at emerge.net.au>
> > To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 3:43:27 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
> >
> > From what I've heard Telstra is currently the only carrier with
> > backhaul
> > (fibre) out of Darwin, so one would assume Optus is renting a slice of
>
> > that from Telstra and Optus is running a super high contention ratio
> > on that backhaul circuit themselves.
> >
> > I'm still looking for more realistic priced services in Darwin myself,
>
> > currently paying a 4 digit figure a month for 512k BSDL services from
> > Telstra.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> > [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>]
> On Behalf Of Kai
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 1:51 PM
> > To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> > Subject: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
> >
> > Hi guys and girls,
> >
> > Can anyone shed some light on Optus mobile broadband in Darwin? Optus'
> > website service coverage map (http://www2.optus.com.au/) says it's
> > available all through Darwin however no one in any of the Optus stores
>
> > I've been to can give me any reasons why mobile broadband is not
> > available just that "it's not available anymore and we don't have any
> > indications when it will be back"....but if I want I can order Optus
> > based mobile through someone in another state and then just hope like
> > hell that the congestion doesn't hit too hard during peak and
> > effectively be as slow as dial-up.
> >
> > I tried contacting Optus last week through their website but I don't
> > expect a reply anytime soon and if I do get a reply it'll probably be
> > a canned copy and paste.
> >
> > I can only guess that since I get the impression there used to mobile
> > broadband here, congestion issues with mobile voice are causing
> > issues, however I thought voice and data may be on different
> > frequencies so congestion on the voice band wouldn't cause any issues?
> >
> > Looking forward to any feedback
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kai
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