[AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

Wed May 19 22:40:54 EST 2010

I still reckon you are better off on Telstra until a decent player comes
along with their own backhaul.

All our NT traffic goes via Adelaide then across to Sydney or down to
Melbourne for replication.

There is local talk about Nextgen here and even Amcom (they are putting
in new kit for the Education contract), but terrain challenges getting
gear and cables across large areas of "nothingness" are going to be
tough.

Cheers ;)

Regards, 

Darren Moss
General Manager, Director
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From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Curtis Bayne
Sent: 2010-05-19 2:22 pm
To: Kai; ausnog
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

"My logic suggests if Optus mobile reception is available, how is the
mobile broadband service any different that Optus tell their staff to
tell customers "no Optus mobile broadband here"?"

Probably because the backhaul to SA/QLD (being as old as they are,
there's a strong chance Optus may take the aging Darwin -> Isa ->
Townsville route on Telstra's ATM network) is saturated to the hilt.
$1k/Mbps and beyond for carriage to Darwin, is it any wonder?

Curtis.

-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net on behalf of Kai
Sent: Wed 5/19/2010 2:13 PM
To: ausnog
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

Hey Darren,

Yeah the Optus shop on Knuckey St is where I went yesterday at lunch
time and was told "it's not available anymore and we don't have any
indications when it will be back....but if you want you can order Optus
based mobile through someone in another state, get them to send up the
modem and then just hope like hell that the congestion doesn't hit too
hard during peak and effectively be as slow as dial-up."

I was at a smaller Optus shop in Casuarina the other day who also gave
me "we have no mobile broadband here", I thought maybe the shop in the
city might have a bit more information about why there's no mobile
broadband.

My logic suggests if Optus mobile reception is available, how is the
mobile broadband service any different that Optus tell their staff to
tell customers "no Optus mobile broadband here"?

Cheers
Kai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Moss" <Darren.Moss at em3.com.au>
To: "Kai" <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>, "ausnog" <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010 1:34:00 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

Hi Kai,

I am here in Darwin this week and just saw a bus shelter style
advertisement for Optus Mobile Broadband ;)
There is also an Optus business centre (shop) on Knuckey Street you
could try.

Cheers.

Regards,

Darren Moss
General Manager, Director
[p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287
[e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au

em3 People and Technology | Managed Technology Experts
Celebrating 10 Great Years of Service 1999-2009.
postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189

New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
[p] 09 92 555 26 [f] 09 887 0273 [m] 021 841 541

-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
Sent: 2010-05-19 1:57 pm
To: ausnog
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

Thanks for all the responses, very much appreciated and I'll keep an eye
on it.
Would very much like to hear something from an Optus rep about their
plans.

Cheers
Kai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Minchin" <Tom.Minchin at csiro.au>
To: dhooper at emerge.net.au, ausnog at ausnog.net
Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 8:46:59 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

They do indeed - we use it in Darwin and Alice Springs. Telstra backhaul
though...

----- Original Message -----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>
To: 'ausnog at ausnog.net' <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Sent: Tue May 18 18:57:12 2010
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

And for business/enterprise customers I heard on the grape vine amcom
has a large fibre network in the CBD of Darwin (just no cheap backhaul).

-----Original Message-----
From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
[mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Chris Chaundy
Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 6:22 PM
To: Kai
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin

On the broadband front, why do you think that Nextgen got the 'Black
Spot' contract to run fibre up to Darwin (and lots of other places)?

BTW, this is well underway.

Sent by avian carrier

On 18/05/2010, at 19:17, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Darren,
>
> Thanks for the info...
>
> I was half expecting since Darwin's the capital we'd actually have
> better non-Telstra infrastructure here but apparently not. I'm
> guessing there are reasons (probably financially oriented) why
> everyone's leaning on Telstra, just frustrating to not have any real
> alternatives.
>
> Is there an Optus rep on list who can provide any comments?
>
> Cheers
> Kai
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darren Moss" <Darren.Moss at em3.com.au>
> To: "Kai" <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>, ausnog at ausnog.net
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 7:00:01 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne

> / Sydney
> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> Kai,
>
> We've been in Darwin for almost 4 years now and Telstra really is the
> only option.
> When we first investigated ethernet and fibre in the NT, what we found

> was most providers were renting/reselling Telstra kit.
>
> For mobile internet, you are better off on Telstra as the service is
> proper 3G, not 3G indicator with 2G speeds :) Our techs all originally

> had 3G Optus mobile internet which had to be thrown out as the service

> was terrible.
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Darren Moss
> General Manager
> Australia and New Zealand
> [p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287
> [e] Darren.Moss at em3.com.au [w] www.em3.com.au
>
> em3 People and Technology | Managed Technology Experts
> postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189
>
> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City
> postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045
> [p] 09 887 0550 [f] 09 887 0273
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
> Sent: 2010-05-18 4:27 pm
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> Righteo, thanks.
> I'm interested to hear feedback from any Optus staff about their plans

> with mobile broadband in this area.
>
> When I was on holiday in Melbourne I got 3, worked in Melb, Syd and
> Bris but not here, even though I thought 3 use Telstra's network.
>
> I'm currently using Vodafone wireless broadband, sure the signal
> usually sux and there's just enough radiation floating around to get a

> reasonable connection. Telstra charge nearly twice as much for
> recharge/monthly data allowance than any other carrier and since Optus

> (and therefore Virgin, WestNet and any other Optus reseellers) don't
> have service here, Vodafone will do.
>
> Cheers
> Kai
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Hooper" <dhooper at emerge.net.au>
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 3:43:27 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> From what I've heard Telstra is currently the only carrier with
> backhaul
> (fibre) out of Darwin, so one would assume Optus is renting a slice of

> that from Telstra and Optus is running a super high contention ratio
> on that backhaul circuit themselves.
>
> I'm still looking for more realistic priced services in Darwin myself,

> currently paying a 4 digit figure a month for 512k BSDL services from
> Telstra.
>
> -Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kai
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 1:51 PM
> To: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin
>
> Hi guys and girls,
>
> Can anyone shed some light on Optus mobile broadband in Darwin? Optus'
> website service coverage map (http://www2.optus.com.au/) says it's
> available all through Darwin however no one in any of the Optus stores

> I've been to can give me any reasons why mobile broadband is not
> available just that "it's not available anymore and we don't have any
> indications when it will be back"....but if I want I can order Optus
> based mobile through someone in another state and then just hope like
> hell that the congestion doesn't hit too hard during peak and
> effectively be as slow as dial-up.
>
> I tried contacting Optus last week through their website but I don't
> expect a reply anytime soon and if I do get a reply it'll probably be
> a canned copy and paste.
>
> I can only guess that since I get the impression there used to mobile
> broadband here, congestion issues with mobile voice are causing
> issues, however I thought voice and data may be on different
> frequencies so congestion on the voice band wouldn't cause any issues?
>
> Looking forward to any feedback
>
> Cheers
> Kai
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