> <meta charset="utf-8"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); ">There is local talk about Nextgen here</span><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.nextgennetworks.com.au/RBBP_progress.htm">http://www.nextgennetworks.com.au/RBBP_progress.htm</a> , updated monthly...</div>
<div><br></div><div>-- D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Darren Moss <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">I still reckon you are better off on Telstra until a decent
player comes along with their own backhaul.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">All our NT traffic goes via Adelaide then across to Sydney or
down to Melbourne for replication.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">There is local talk about Nextgen here and even Amcom (they
are putting in new kit for the Education contract), but terrain challenges
getting gear and cables across large areas of "nothingness" are going to be
tough.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Cheers ;)</font></span></div>
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<p align="left"><font size="2" face="verdana">Regards, <br> <br> <br><strong>Darren
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Curtis
Bayne<br><b>Sent:</b> 2010-05-19 2:22 pm<br><b>To:</b> Kai;
ausnog<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in
Darwin<br></font><br><p></p>
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<p><font size="2">"My logic suggests if Optus mobile reception is available, how
is the mobile broadband service any different that Optus tell their staff to
tell customers "no Optus mobile broadband here"?"<br><br>Probably because the
backhaul to SA/QLD (being as old as they are, there's a strong chance Optus may
take the aging Darwin -> Isa -> Townsville route on Telstra's ATM network)
is saturated to the hilt. $1k/Mbps and beyond for carriage to Darwin, is it any
wonder?<br><br>Curtis.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> on behalf of Kai<br>Sent: Wed 5/19/2010 2:13
PM<br>To: ausnog<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in
Darwin<br><br>Hey Darren,<br><br>Yeah the Optus shop on Knuckey St is where I
went yesterday at lunch time and was told "it's not available anymore and we
don't have any indications when it will be back....but if you want you can order
Optus based mobile through someone in another state, get them to send up the
modem and then just hope like hell that the congestion doesn't hit too hard
during peak and effectively be as slow as dial-up."<br><br>I was at a smaller
Optus shop in Casuarina the other day who also gave me "we have no mobile
broadband here", I thought maybe the shop in the city might have a bit more
information about why there's no mobile broadband.<br><br>My logic suggests if
Optus mobile reception is available, how is the mobile broadband service any
different that Optus tell their staff to tell customers "no Optus mobile
broadband here"?<br><br>Cheers<br>Kai<br><br>----- Original Message
-----<br>From: "Darren Moss" <<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au" target="_blank">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a>><br>To: "Kai"
<<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>>, "ausnog" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>Sent:
Wednesday, 19 May, 2010 1:34:00 PM GMT +09:30 Darwin<br>Subject: RE: [AusNOG] No
Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>Hi Kai,<br><br>I am here in Darwin this
week and just saw a bus shelter style<br>advertisement for Optus Mobile
Broadband ;)<br>There is also an Optus business centre (shop) on Knuckey Street
you<br>could try.<br><br>Cheers.<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br>Darren
Moss<br>General Manager, Director<br>[p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287<br>[e]
<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au" target="_blank">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au" target="_blank">www.em3.com.au</a><br><br>em3 People and Technology |
Managed Technology Experts<br>Celebrating 10 Great Years of Service
1999-2009.<br>postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin VIC 3189<br><br>New Zealand
Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>[p] 09 92
555 26 [f] 09 887 0273 [m] 021 841 541<br><br><br>-----Original
Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Kai<br>Sent: 2010-05-19 1:57 pm<br>To: ausnog<br>Subject: Re:
[AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>Thanks for all the
responses, very much appreciated and I'll keep an eye<br>on it.<br>Would very
much like to hear something from an Optus rep about
their<br>plans.<br><br>Cheers<br>Kai<br><br>----- Original Message
-----<br>From: "Tom Minchin" <Tom.Minchin@csiro.au><br>To:
<a href="mailto:dhooper@emerge.net.au" target="_blank">dhooper@emerge.net.au</a>, <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 8:46:59
PM GMT +09:30 Darwin<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in
Darwin<br><br>They do indeed - we use it in Darwin and Alice Springs. Telstra
backhaul<br>though...<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From:
<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>To:
'<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>' <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>Sent: Tue May 18 18:57:12
2010<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in Darwin<br><br>And for
business/enterprise customers I heard on the grape vine amcom<br>has a large
fibre network in the CBD of Darwin (just no cheap
backhaul).<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>[<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Chris Chaundy<br>Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 6:22 PM<br>To:
Kai<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband
in Darwin<br><br>On the broadband front, why do you think that Nextgen got the
'Black<br>Spot' contract to run fibre up to Darwin (and lots of other
places)?<br><br>BTW, this is well underway.<br><br>Sent by avian
carrier<br><br>On 18/05/2010, at 19:17, Kai <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br><br>> Hi Darren,<br>><br>> Thanks for the
info...<br>><br>> I was half expecting since Darwin's the capital we'd
actually have<br>> better non-Telstra infrastructure here but apparently not.
I'm<br>> guessing there are reasons (probably financially oriented)
why<br>> everyone's leaning on Telstra, just frustrating to not have any
real<br>> alternatives.<br>><br>> Is there an Optus rep on list who can
provide any comments?<br>><br>> Cheers<br>> Kai<br>><br>> -----
Original Message -----<br>> From: "Darren Moss"
<<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au" target="_blank">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a>><br>> To: "Kai" <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>>,
<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 7:00:01 PM GMT +10:00
Canberra / Melbourne<br><br>> / Sydney<br>> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] No Optus
mobile broadband in Darwin<br>><br>> Kai,<br>><br>> We've been in
Darwin for almost 4 years now and Telstra really is the<br>> only
option.<br>> When we first investigated ethernet and fibre in the NT, what we
found<br><br>> was most providers were renting/reselling Telstra
kit.<br>><br>> For mobile internet, you are better off on Telstra as the
service is<br>> proper 3G, not 3G indicator with 2G speeds :) Our techs all
originally<br><br>> had 3G Optus mobile internet which had to be thrown out
as the service<br><br>> was terrible.<br>><br>> HTH<br>><br>>
Regards,<br>><br>><br>> Darren Moss<br>> General Manager<br>>
Australia and New Zealand<br>> [p] 1300 131 083 [f] 03 9017 2287<br>> [e]
<a href="mailto:Darren.Moss@em3.com.au" target="_blank">Darren.Moss@em3.com.au</a> [w] <a href="http://www.em3.com.au" target="_blank">www.em3.com.au</a><br>><br>> em3 People and
Technology | Managed Technology Experts<br>> postal: PO Box 2333, Moorabbin
VIC 3189<br>><br>> New Zealand Airedale Street, Auckland City<br>>
postal: PO Box 39573, Howick 2045<br>> [p] 09 887 0550 [f] 09 887
0273<br>><br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From:
<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Kai<br>> Sent: 2010-05-18 4:27 pm<br>> To:
<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in
Darwin<br>><br>> Righteo, thanks.<br>> I'm interested to hear feedback
from any Optus staff about their plans<br><br>> with mobile broadband in this
area.<br>><br>> When I was on holiday in Melbourne I got 3, worked in
Melb, Syd and<br>> Bris but not here, even though I thought 3 use Telstra's
network.<br>><br>> I'm currently using Vodafone wireless broadband, sure
the signal<br>> usually sux and there's just enough radiation floating around
to get a<br><br>> reasonable connection. Telstra charge nearly twice as much
for<br>> recharge/monthly data allowance than any other carrier and since
Optus<br><br>> (and therefore Virgin, WestNet and any other Optus reseellers)
don't<br>> have service here, Vodafone will do.<br>><br>>
Cheers<br>> Kai<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From:
"Daniel Hooper" <<a href="mailto:dhooper@emerge.net.au" target="_blank">dhooper@emerge.net.au</a>><br>> To:
<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May, 2010 3:43:27 PM GMT +09:30
Darwin<br>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in
Darwin<br>><br>> From what I've heard Telstra is currently the only
carrier with<br>> backhaul<br>> (fibre) out of Darwin, so one would assume
Optus is renting a slice of<br><br>> that from Telstra and Optus is running a
super high contention ratio<br>> on that backhaul circuit
themselves.<br>><br>> I'm still looking for more realistic priced services
in Darwin myself,<br><br>> currently paying a 4 digit figure a month for 512k
BSDL services from<br>> Telstra.<br>><br>> -Dan<br>><br>>
-----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>>
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On Behalf Of Kai<br>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 1:51 PM<br>> To:
<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>> Subject: [AusNOG] No Optus mobile broadband in
Darwin<br>><br>> Hi guys and girls,<br>><br>> Can anyone shed some
light on Optus mobile broadband in Darwin? Optus'<br>> website service
coverage map (<a href="http://www2.optus.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www2.optus.com.au/</a>)
says it's<br>> available all through Darwin however no one in any of the
Optus stores<br><br>> I've been to can give me any reasons why mobile
broadband is not<br>> available just that "it's not available anymore and we
don't have any<br>> indications when it will be back"....but if I want I can
order Optus<br>> based mobile through someone in another state and then just
hope like<br>> hell that the congestion doesn't hit too hard during peak
and<br>> effectively be as slow as dial-up.<br>><br>> I tried
contacting Optus last week through their website but I don't<br>> expect a
reply anytime soon and if I do get a reply it'll probably be<br>> a canned
copy and paste.<br>><br>> I can only guess that since I get the impression
there used to mobile<br>> broadband here, congestion issues with mobile voice
are causing<br>> issues, however I thought voice and data may be on
different<br>> frequencies so congestion on the voice band wouldn't cause any
issues?<br>><br>> Looking forward to any feedback<br>><br>>
Cheers<br>> Kai<br>>
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