[AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead - Gillard supports a the great firewall

[Phillip Grasso]

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Skeeve Stevens <Skeeve at eintellego.net>wrote:

>  I’m just making a suggestion... I’m advocating anything...  I am sure we
> can come up with something drastic.
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> No pain no gain though.... and with enough notice... I am sure that most
> customers would not have an issue... especially if many ISP’s did it.
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> What about blackholing all .gov.au’s? ;-)
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hey its not the whole Government that is the issue, its just Conroy. If your
going to block something at least block something that isn't useful. Conroys
home page would be a good example, he'll learn what filtering and censorship
is all about. <kidding> please don't shut down services or block sites at
this point. That would probably be counter productive.

Lobby, political campaigns, grass roots movements needs to be the first
priority.




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> ...Skeeve
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> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
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> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
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> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
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> NOC, NOC, who's there?
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> *From:* Jay Mitchell [mailto:jay at miscreant.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:40 PM
> *To:* Skeeve Stevens; ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
> Gillard supports a the great firewall
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> In my imaginary anti-authoritarian world I go to when I listen to my punk
> collection, sure I can imagine this J In my day (and let’s face, it night)
> job I can’t even begin to imagine doing this.
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> As a consumer if my ISP did this, they’d be hearing from me and it wouldn’t
> be pretty.
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> As a network operator, the financial and legal ramifications of an action
> such as this don’t bear thinking about.
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> Let’s think about this from another angle. What do other industries do when
> they want politicians to take or desist from a course of action? They lobby.
> Now lobbying doesn’t need to be about cash (unless you’re the tobacco/gun
> toting kind of folk). What about finding MP’s sympathetic to your cause and
> using them to voice your opinion/ideas/concerns? By the people for the
> people?
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> Just my $0.05 ;)
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> *From:* ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net [mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:17 PM
> *To:* Bevan Slattery; Phillip Grasso; ausnog at ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
> Gillard supports a the great firewall
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> <snip>
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> Imagine if a LOT of ISP’s agreed on an ‘Internet Black Out Day’ – where we
> gave a couple of weeks notice and then for a whole day or just hours,
> shutdown ALL user connectivity – that would be front page everywhere...  and
> let people know WHY – because the government was wanting to censor the
> internet.  If you affected tens of thousands of people for a period it would
> turn a lot of people against the government and create a lot of awareness.
> But do you think we would/could be brave enough to take such a drastic
> action? Doubtful.... We’re not that brave enough to get out of our comfort
> zone – we have shareholders and boards and customers we can’t possibly
> upset.  I doubt too many people would leave if they understood why we did
> it.  Since when was something worth fighting for without some cost?
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> <snip>
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> That said, I love you all – peace out ;-)
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> ...Skeeve
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> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
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> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
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> skeeve at eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net
>
> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
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> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
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> NOC, NOC, who's there?
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