<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Skeeve@eintellego.net">Skeeve@eintellego.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I’m just making a suggestion... I’m advocating
anything... I am sure we can come up with something drastic.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">No pain no gain though.... and with enough notice... I am sure
that most customers would not have an issue... especially if many ISP’s
did it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">What about blackholing all .gov.au’s? ;-)</span></p><div class="im">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div>hey its not the whole Government that is the issue, its just Conroy. If your going to block something at least block something that isn't useful. Conroys home page would be a good example, he'll learn what filtering and censorship is all about. <kidding> please don't shut down services or block sites at this point. That would probably be counter productive. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Lobby, political campaigns, grass roots movements needs to be the first priority. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">...Skeeve</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">NOC, NOC, who's there?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> Jay Mitchell [mailto:<a href="mailto:jay@miscreant.org" target="_blank">jay@miscreant.org</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
Gillard supports a the great firewall</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">In my imaginary anti-authoritarian world I go to when I listen
to my punk collection, sure I can imagine this </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> In my day (and
let’s face, it night) job I can’t even begin to imagine doing this.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">As a consumer if my ISP did this, they’d be hearing from
me and it wouldn’t be pretty.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">As a network operator, the financial and legal ramifications of
an action such as this don’t bear thinking about.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Let’s think about this from another angle. What do other
industries do when they want politicians to take or desist from a course of
action? They lobby. Now lobbying doesn’t need to be about cash (unless
you’re the tobacco/gun toting kind of folk). What about finding
MP’s sympathetic to your cause and using them to voice your opinion/ideas/concerns?
By the people for the people?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Just my $0.05 ;)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery; Phillip Grasso; <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Australian Censorship program to go ahead -
Gillard supports a the great firewall</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><snip></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Imagine if a LOT of ISP’s agreed on an ‘Internet
Black Out Day’ – where we gave a couple of weeks notice and then
for a whole day or just hours, shutdown ALL user connectivity – that
would be front page everywhere... and let people know WHY – because
the government was wanting to censor the internet. If you affected tens
of thousands of people for a period it would turn a lot of people against the
government and create a lot of awareness. But do you think we would/could
be brave enough to take such a drastic action? Doubtful.... We’re not
that brave enough to get out of our comfort zone – we have shareholders
and boards and customers we can’t possibly upset. I doubt too many
people would leave if they understood why we did it. Since when was
something worth fighting for without some cost?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#002060">That
said, I love you all – peace out ;-)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">...Skeeve</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">--</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellego.net</a>
/ <a href="http://www.eintellego.net" target="_blank">www.eintellego.net</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#002060">NOC, NOC, who's there?</span></p>
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