[AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on Current Available Ranges - July 2014

Wed Jul 30 17:21:40 EST 2014

I started reading this thread in my browser based mail and was wondering why I hadn't seen the OP and then why I wasn't seeing any of the other posts from Skeeve, yet I was reading the responses to them from others. At first I thought that the replies from Skeeve might have been to the person directly and then that person had replied to the list. Then as I continued to read the replies I realised this was not the case and that everyone was replying to "all". Then I went and looked in the 'spam' folder and all of the emails from Skeeve for this thread were sitting there.

Yahoo email it seems is not without a sense of irony...

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 From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
To: Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com>; David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> 
Cc: classifieds <classifieds at lists.ausnog.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2014 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on Current Available Ranges - July 2014

You profit from the sale though and charge a fee for it, don’t you? I am a supporter of what you’re trying to do but it’s no different to anyone else trying to sell a commercial product for financial benefit.

From:Classifieds [mailto:classifieds-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2014 4:46 PM
To: David Hughes
Cc: classifieds
Subject: Re: [AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on Current Available Ranges - July 2014

Ok, but I do NOT agree.. we are NOT a vendor, as we do not own the address space.  The space is owned by the end-user, and we're simply representing it.. like a real-estate agent. Even any transaction is between the seller and buyer.

So in my opinion (and others), we're not the vendor at all....   This just really seems like people being a pain in the ass for the sake of it.  This list is for the benefit of the community, and helping the community is what we're doing (whether we benefit or not).

I request that you clarify the charter, either to specifically include people brokering, but not selling, or to exclude it... and if you exclude it, you should run a poll on the list to see how the community feels about it, not just those who whinge.

...Skeeve

Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:

Actually Skeeve, as previously discussed, in our opinion you are a vendor.  You are a commercial entity that generates revenue from the sale of the resources your are advertising.  As such your emails relating to the sale of other peoples address space are not within the charter of either the AusNOG list or the AusNOG Classifieds list.

Anybody on the list that wishes to sell THEIR OWN address space can do so quite happily within the charter of the Classifieds list.

Skeeve, again, please refrain from sending emails of this nature to the list.

Thanks

David - on behalf of the moderators
...

On 30/07/2014, at 2:00 PM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:

Relax Damian.  We're not a vendor, but a broker.  There is a difference.

We're just trying to connect buyers and sellers with what they need... in the network operator space.  Why would you be upset about that?  We don't post very often and have limited to a maximum of once per month.

...Skeeve

Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve 
twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
The Experts Who The Experts Call
Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
From the list charter for this mailing list:

>The list is for network operators to post to, not vendors to advertise on. 

I take this email as a vendor advertising, so I think this is a violation of the charter. 

Thanks,
--Damian

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
IPv4 Announcement
Update on Current Available Ranges

v4Now represents holders of IPv4 resources who are interested in selling all or part of their holding.
Code FN194 - Resource Size: /17 (or 2*/18)
Code LP185 - Resource Size: /18 (or 2*/19)
Code SB028 - Resource Size: /20, /21, /22, /23
Code LW219 - Resource Size: /20 (or 2*/21)
Code BX005 - Resource Size: /21
Code FC022 - Resource Size: /19
Code BN012 - Resource Size: /16 (RIPE)
Code SW015 - Resource Size: /16 (RIPE)
Code RT029 - Resource Size: /16 (RIPE)
Code BO026 - Resource Size: /21, /22, /23, /24 (RIPE)
Region: APNIC & RIPE
Price: All reasonable offers will be presented to resource holders

Please visit: http://v4now.com/ip-resource-offer/ to make an offer.

...Skeeve

Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker
v4Now - an eintellego Networks service
skeeve at v4now.com ; www.v4now.com
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