[AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on Current Available Ranges - July 2014

[Skeeve Stevens]

In both directions, because nearly all of your posts to Ausnog end up in my
Gmails spam folder.


...Skeeve

*Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com

Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve

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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Tony <td_miles at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I started reading this thread in my browser based mail and was wondering
> why I hadn't seen the OP and then why I wasn't seeing any of the other
> posts from Skeeve, yet I was reading the responses to them from others. At
> first I thought that the replies from Skeeve might have been to the person
> directly and then that person had replied to the list. Then as I continued
> to read the replies I realised this was not the case and that everyone was
> replying to "all". Then I went and looked in the 'spam' folder and all of
> the emails from Skeeve for this thread were sitting there.
>
> Yahoo email it seems is not without a sense of irony...
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
> *To:* Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com>;
> David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au>
> *Cc:* classifieds <classifieds at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 July 2014 4:51 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on Current
> Available Ranges - July 2014
>
>  You profit from the sale though and charge a fee for it, don’t you? I am
> a supporter of what you’re trying to do but it’s no different to anyone
> else trying to sell a commercial product for financial benefit.
>
> *From:* Classifieds [mailto:classifieds-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Skeeve Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 July 2014 4:46 PM
> *To:* David Hughes
> *Cc:* classifieds
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG Classifieds] v4Now Announcement: Update on Current
> Available Ranges - July 2014
>
>  Ok, but I do NOT agree.. we are NOT a vendor, as we do not own the
> address space.  The space is owned by the end-user, and we're simply
> representing it.. like a real-estate agent. Even any transaction is between
> the seller and buyer.
>
>  So in my opinion (and others), we're not the vendor at all....   This
> just really seems like people being a pain in the ass for the sake of it.
>  This list is for the benefit of the community, and helping the community
> is what we're doing (whether we benefit or not).
>
>  I request that you clarify the charter, either to specifically include
> people brokering, but not selling, or to exclude it... and if you exclude
> it, you should run a poll on the list to see how the community feels about
> it, not just those who whinge.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>   *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>   skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>   The Experts Who The Experts Call
>  Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering
>
>  On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>  Actually Skeeve, as previously discussed, in our opinion you are a
> vendor.  You are a commercial entity that generates revenue from the sale
> of the resources your are advertising.  As such your emails relating to the
> sale of other peoples address space are not within the charter of either
> the AusNOG list or the AusNOG Classifieds list.
>
>  Anybody on the list that wishes to sell THEIR OWN address space can do
> so quite happily within the charter of the Classifieds list.
>
>  Skeeve, again, please refrain from sending emails of this nature to the
> list.
>
>
>  Thanks
>
>  David - on behalf of the moderators
>  ...
>
>  On 30/07/2014, at 2:00 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Relax Damian.  We're not a vendor, but a broker.  There is a difference.
>
>  We're just trying to connect buyers and sellers with what they need...
> in the network operator space.  Why would you be upset about that?  We
> don't post very often and have limited to a maximum of once per month.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>   *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>   skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>  Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>  facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>  twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>    The Experts Who The Experts Call
>  Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering
>
>  On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:
>  From the list charter for this mailing list:
>
>  >The list is for network operators to post to, not vendors to advertise
> on.
>
>  I take this email as a vendor advertising, so I think this is a
> violation of the charter.
>
>  Thanks,
>  --Damian
>
>  On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnogclassifieds at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>   *IPv4 Announcement* *Update on Current Available Ranges*
>
>  v4Now represents holders of IPv4 resources who are interested in selling
> all or part of their holding. Code FN194 - Resource Size: */17 (or 2*/18)* Code
> LP185 - Resource Size: */18 (or 2*/19)* Code SB028 - Resource Size: */20,
> /21, /22, /23* Code LW219 - Resource Size: */20 (or 2*/21)* Code BX005 -
> Resource Size: */21* Code FC022 - Resource Size: */19* Code BN012 -
> Resource Size: */16 (RIPE)* Code SW015 - Resource Size: */16 (RIPE)* Code
> RT029 - Resource Size: */16 (RIPE)* Code BO026 - Resource Size: */21,
> /22, /23, /24 (RIPE)*
> Region: APNIC & RIPE
> Price: All reasonable offers will be presented to resource holders
>
> Please visit: http://v4now.com/ip-resource-offer/ to make an offer.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
>   *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
>  *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks service
>   skeeve at v4now.com ; www.v4now.com
>  Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>  facebook.com/v4now ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>  twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>    IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
>
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