[AusNOG] ** STOP THREAD ** AGAIN ** Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making
david at hughes.id
david at hughes.id
Mon Jan 9 11:56:21 AEDT 2023
Thanks for the assist Mark. I've been trying to prolong my break but am now back on deck.
There is nothing remotely operational about this thread so please do not continue it.
David
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> On 4 Jan 2023, at 2:47 am, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
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> David asked for discussion about this ISP to be dropped here something like a month ago.
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> Please reread the charter to refresh your memory on what the purpose of this mailing list is.
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> https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter <https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter>
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> There's a Rep forum on Whirlpool where this ISP can be discussed, as Wild IT and others were.
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> On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 22:39 Chad Kelly, <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:
> I must plug Interactive.com.au <http://interactive.com.au/> at this point, pretty much guaranteed to fix any out of warranty hardware and have parts. Shows their lack of industry knowledge that the guys at Zoom BB didn’t know they existed, they are one of the largest IT firms in the country now a days.
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> Regards Chad.
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> Chad Kelly
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> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au <https://www.cpkws.com.au/>
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> From: Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com <mailto:brad at bradleyamm.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 10:16 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
> Cc: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making
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> They probably can’t get another Microtik from eBay fast enough.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 3 Jan 2023, at 6:30 pm, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:
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> Hi Yeah noticed that.
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> The website still looks like it’s taking money though.
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> Unless they just haven’t updated the homepage didn’t pay too much attention.
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> One thing I did point out to them is that November is a rather odd time for setting up an ISP, right before everyone goes on imbargo period.
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> Regards Chad.
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> Chad Kelly
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> Manager
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> Phone 03 52730246
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> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au <https://www.cpkws.com.au/>
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> From: Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com <mailto:brad at bradleyamm.com>>
> Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2023 9:05 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
> Cc: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making
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> Well they are dead
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> https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk <https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk>
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> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:
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> Yeah I get that.
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> Bit concerned they’ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP. You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of network.
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> You need a few more million for marketing on top of that.
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> This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have a captive audience to sell to and they’ve gone layer 3 so not much investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly.
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> This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we were already a business to business provider but the margins on business broadband are so much better than residential.
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> Regards Chad.
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> Chad Kelly
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> Manager
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> CPK Web Services
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> Phone 03 52730246
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> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au <https://www.cpkws.com.au/>
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> From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>
> Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making
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> It’s all about volume.
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> Nathan Brookfield
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> On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:
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> Hi
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> Just to clarify it wasn’t so much the plans pricing that was concerning me, but more the lack of margin.
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> $3 per customer isn’t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10 per customer and the higher ones $20 plus.
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> End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway.
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> Regards Chad.
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> From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>>
> Sent: Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM
> To: Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>>
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making
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> Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they’re pretty reasonable especially if they’re an RSP.
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> On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:
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> Hi All .
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> Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au <http://www.zoombroadband.com.au/> .
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> Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me.
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> Plus this post on Ozbargain https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment <https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment>
> Look at page 5.
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> Now I know the margins on NBN aren’t fantastic but $3 I wouldn’t even waste time with.
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> I mean I don’t want to discourage new players from entering the market and giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before you can run.
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> Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance for ISPs. As in the codes of conduct.
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> Regards Chad.
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