[AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the making

Wed Jan 4 03:47:28 AEDT 2023

David asked for discussion about this ISP to be dropped here something like
a month ago.

Please reread the charter to refresh your memory on what the purpose of
this mailing list is.

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There's a Rep forum on Whirlpool where this ISP can be discussed, as Wild
IT and others were.

On Tue, 3 Jan 2023, 22:39 Chad Kelly, <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:

> I must plug Interactive.com.au at this point, pretty much guaranteed to
> fix any out of warranty hardware and have parts. Shows their lack of
> industry knowledge that the guys at Zoom BB didn’t know they existed, they
> are one of the largest IT firms in the country now a days.
>
> Regards Chad.
>
>
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>
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> Chad Kelly
>
> Manager
>
> CPK Web Services
>
> Phone 03 52730246
>
> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
>
>
>
> *From:* Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 January 2023 10:16 PM
> *To:* Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> *Cc:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>;
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the
> making
>
>
>
> They probably can’t get another Microtik from eBay fast enough.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>
> On 3 Jan 2023, at 6:30 pm, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Yeah noticed that.
>
> The website still looks like it’s taking money though.
>
> Unless they just haven’t updated the homepage didn’t pay too much
> attention.
>
> One thing I did point out to them is that November is a rather odd time
> for setting up an ISP, right before everyone goes on imbargo period.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards Chad.
>
>
>
> Chad Kelly
>
> Manager
>
> CPK Web Services
>
> Phone 03 52730246
>
> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
>
> [image: image001.jpg]
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> *From:* Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 January 2023 9:05 PM
> *To:* Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> *Cc:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>;
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the
> making
>
>
>
> Well they are dead
>
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>
> https://imgur.com/a/jmO3Mkk
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> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 4:22 PM Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
>
> Yeah I get that.
>
> Bit concerned they’ve only invested $300000 which is nothing for an ISP.
> You need $10000000 at least just to get something half decent in terms of
> network.
>
> You need a few more million for marketing on top of that.
>
> This is why it works for the likes of Australia post as they already have
> a captive audience to sell to and they’ve gone layer 3 so not much
> investment required layer 2 you need millions to do it properly.
>
>
>
> This is why I went for the business side of the market partly because we
> were already a business to business provider but the margins on business
> broadband are so much better than residential.
>
>
>
> Regards Chad.
>
> Chad Kelly
>
> Manager
>
> CPK Web Services
>
> Phone 03 52730246
>
> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
>
> [image: image001.jpg]
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>
> *From:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Sent:* Saturday, 3 December 2022 6:53 PM
> *To:* Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the
> making
>
>
>
> It’s all about volume.
>
> *Nathan Brookfield *
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> On 3 Dec 2022, at 13:02, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
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>
> Hi
>
> Just to clarify it wasn’t so much the plans pricing that was concerning
> me, but more the lack of margin.
>
> $3 per customer isn’t a lot for things like support and monitoring etc, as
> I understand it the lower NBN plans you should be making around $7 to $10
> per customer and the higher ones $20 plus.
>
> End of the day its up to each provider to make their own decisions on
> margins etc I think it will be interesting to see how they go anyway.
>
> Regards Chad.
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> Chad Kelly
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> Manager
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> CPK Web Services
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> Phone 03 52730246
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> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
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> *From:* Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> *Sent:* Friday, 2 December 2022 11:49 PM
> *To:* Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au>
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Zoom Broadband another Epic broadband in the
> making
>
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> Their retail prices are almost identical to ours, I think they’re pretty
> reasonable especially if they’re an RSP.
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> On 2 Dec 2022, at 23:15, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi All .
>
> Came across this new provider on Whingepool (whirlpool) while doing some
> casual browsing www.zoombroadband.com.au .
>
> Pricing looks very much unsustainable and the business model horrifies me.
>
> Plus this post on Ozbargain
> https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/739835?page=4#comment
>
> Look at page 5.
>
> Now I know the margins on NBN aren’t fantastic but $3 I wouldn’t even
> waste time with.
>
> I mean I don’t want to discourage new players from entering the market and
> giving it a crack but I think you at least need to be able to walk before
> you can run.
>
> Also you need to comply with the TIO requirements and the Comms alliance
> for ISPs. As in the codes of conduct.
>
> Regards Chad.
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
> Chad Kelly
>
> Manager
>
> CPK Web Services
>
> Phone 03 52730246
>
> Web https://www.cpkws.com.au
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