[AusNOG] Australian based cloud storage

Matthew Scutter yellowplantain at gmail.com
Sun Oct 25 15:42:43 EST 2020


Going to call a [citation needed] on that, because it reeks of FUD to me.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 1:11 PM Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Thank you for all the feedback, greatly appreciated.
>
> I read an article yesterday which said that in the same way that GMail
> parses email content for AI learning and targeting ads, that Google
> cloud storage may also index content, including facial recognition, with
> any photo's, for behaviour learning and targeted ads.
> That's one of the reasons I'm not keen to store data on Google cloud.
> They're on a need-to-know basis with my activities.
>
> Does anyone know if Microsoft, AWS or other providers may allow
> themselves access to stored files?
>
> On 25/10/20 10:25 am, Jacob Taylor wrote:
> > An important question to ask is whether you require file storage or
> > object storage.
> >
> > While the S3 portal provides a veneer of a filesystem-style hierarchy,
> > S3 is really a key-value object store. If you build an application on S3
> > but use filesystem-style queries ("list all files in a directory" as an
> > example), it can end up being very costly.
> >
> > If you just want a place to upload big files, such as backups, VMs,
> > images, and videos, then S3 is ideal.
> >
> > If you are looking for something that requires a file hierarchy, then it
> > might not be appropriate.
> >
> > To reiterate what Shaun says, the data you put in an S3 bucket mastered
> > in the Sydney region (ap-southeast-2) *will not be stored elsewhere*
> > unless you explicitly want it to (via cross-region replication or other
> > sync methods).
> >
> > To go into more detail on encryption options:
> >
> >   * Server Side Encryption (SSE): Encryption is done in the S3 service
> >     itself, you upload/download in plaintext. Comes in a few flavours,
> >     but they all use the same algorithm (AES-256):
> >       o SSE-S3: This is the simplest and easiest to use, basically
> >         turnkey. S3 will use an AWS-managed key in KMS to encrypt your
> >         files.
> >       o SSE-KMS: Same as above, however it uses a custom key you manage
> >         (could be generated on-prem and uploaded, as an example).
> >       o SSE-C: Encrypts files with a key given to S3 by your application
> >         at the time of upload, and you cannot download the file without
> >         providing the same key at the time you request it.
> >   * Client Side Encryption: Describes any scenario where your
> >     application encrypts a file prior to uploading, and decrypts after
> >     downloading.
> >
> > Disclaimer: I work for AWS
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 12:34 PM Shaun Ewing <shaun at shaun.net
> > <mailto:shaun at shaun.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Data uploaded to S3 will stay entirely within a region unless you
> >     explicitly configure cross-region replication.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     There’s a bunch of encryption options including Amazon S3-Managed
> >     Keys and customer provided keys.____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     (Disclosure: I work for AWS)____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     *From:*AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> >     <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> *On Behalf Of *Giles
> Pollock
> >     *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:08 PM
> >     *To:* Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>>
> >     *Cc:* Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> >     *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Australian based cloud storage____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     Amazon have a region, ap-southeast-2 which is Sydney based. Can't
> >     comment whether stuff that goes into s3 gets replicated elsewhere, I
> >     believe you can set the class so it doesn't, but you'd need to talk
> >     to someone at AWS to confirm. ____
> >
> >     __ __
> >
> >     On Sun, 25 Oct 2020, 12:02 Kai, <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au
> >     <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>> wrote:____
> >
> >         Hi folks,
> >
> >         Happy weekend.
> >         I'm searching for Australian based cloud storage.
> >
> >         Google, Microsoft and the other big names might have cache
> >         server here
> >         but the data is also stored overseas, I'm looking for providers
> who
> >         either allow you to choose your cloud storage location, or only
> >         have
> >         hosting within Australia, and have storage which is encrypted.
> >
> >         Any feedback is welcome.
> >
> >         Cheers
> >         Kai
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