<div dir="ltr"><div>Going to call a [citation needed] on that, because it reeks of FUD to me.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 1:11 PM Kai <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi folks,<br>
<br>
Thank you for all the feedback, greatly appreciated.<br>
<br>
I read an article yesterday which said that in the same way that GMail <br>
parses email content for AI learning and targeting ads, that Google <br>
cloud storage may also index content, including facial recognition, with <br>
any photo's, for behaviour learning and targeted ads.<br>
That's one of the reasons I'm not keen to store data on Google cloud. <br>
They're on a need-to-know basis with my activities.<br>
<br>
Does anyone know if Microsoft, AWS or other providers may allow <br>
themselves access to stored files?<br>
<br>
On 25/10/20 10:25 am, Jacob Taylor wrote:<br>
> An important question to ask is whether you require file storage or <br>
> object storage.<br>
> <br>
> While the S3 portal provides a veneer of a filesystem-style hierarchy, <br>
> S3 is really a key-value object store. If you build an application on S3 <br>
> but use filesystem-style queries ("list all files in a directory" as an <br>
> example), it can end up being very costly.<br>
> <br>
> If you just want a place to upload big files, such as backups, VMs, <br>
> images, and videos, then S3 is ideal.<br>
> <br>
> If you are looking for something that requires a file hierarchy, then it <br>
> might not be appropriate.<br>
> <br>
> To reiterate what Shaun says, the data you put in an S3 bucket mastered <br>
> in the Sydney region (ap-southeast-2) *will not be stored elsewhere* <br>
> unless you explicitly want it to (via cross-region replication or other <br>
> sync methods).<br>
> <br>
> To go into more detail on encryption options:<br>
> <br>
> * Server Side Encryption (SSE): Encryption is done in the S3 service<br>
> itself, you upload/download in plaintext. Comes in a few flavours,<br>
> but they all use the same algorithm (AES-256):<br>
> o SSE-S3: This is the simplest and easiest to use, basically<br>
> turnkey. S3 will use an AWS-managed key in KMS to encrypt your<br>
> files.<br>
> o SSE-KMS: Same as above, however it uses a custom key you manage<br>
> (could be generated on-prem and uploaded, as an example).<br>
> o SSE-C: Encrypts files with a key given to S3 by your application<br>
> at the time of upload, and you cannot download the file without<br>
> providing the same key at the time you request it.<br>
> * Client Side Encryption: Describes any scenario where your<br>
> application encrypts a file prior to uploading, and decrypts after<br>
> downloading.<br>
> <br>
> Disclaimer: I work for AWS<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 12:34 PM Shaun Ewing <<a href="mailto:shaun@shaun.net" target="_blank">shaun@shaun.net</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:shaun@shaun.net" target="_blank">shaun@shaun.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Data uploaded to S3 will stay entirely within a region unless you<br>
> explicitly configure cross-region replication.____<br>
> <br>
> __ __<br>
> <br>
> There’s a bunch of encryption options including Amazon S3-Managed<br>
> Keys and customer provided keys.____<br>
> <br>
> __ __<br>
> <br>
> (Disclosure: I work for AWS)____<br>
> <br>
> __ __<br>
> <br>
> *From:*AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>>> *On Behalf Of *Giles Pollock<br>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:08 PM<br>
> *To:* Kai <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>>><br>
> *Cc:* Ausnog <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>><br>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Australian based cloud storage____<br>
> <br>
> __ __<br>
> <br>
> Amazon have a region, ap-southeast-2 which is Sydney based. Can't<br>
> comment whether stuff that goes into s3 gets replicated elsewhere, I<br>
> believe you can set the class so it doesn't, but you'd need to talk<br>
> to someone at AWS to confirm. ____<br>
> <br>
> __ __<br>
> <br>
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020, 12:02 Kai, <<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:vk6ksj@westnet.com.au" target="_blank">vk6ksj@westnet.com.au</a>>> wrote:____<br>
> <br>
> Hi folks,<br>
> <br>
> Happy weekend.<br>
> I'm searching for Australian based cloud storage.<br>
> <br>
> Google, Microsoft and the other big names might have cache<br>
> server here<br>
> but the data is also stored overseas, I'm looking for providers who<br>
> either allow you to choose your cloud storage location, or only<br>
> have<br>
> hosting within Australia, and have storage which is encrypted.<br>
> <br>
> Any feedback is welcome.<br>
> <br>
> Cheers<br>
> Kai<br>
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