[AusNOG] Australian based cloud storage

[James Hodgkinson]

Pretty sure the user stuff gets parsed, like google drive and photos - I'd be very surprised if they messed with the object/disk storage...

James

On 2020-10-25 14:42 Matthew Scutter wrote:
> Going to call a [citation needed] on that, because it reeks of FUD to me.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 1:11 PM Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Thank you for all the feedback, greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> I read an article yesterday which said that in the same way that GMail 
>> parses email content for AI learning and targeting ads, that Google 
>> cloud storage may also index content, including facial recognition, with 
>> any photo's, for behaviour learning and targeted ads.
>> That's one of the reasons I'm not keen to store data on Google cloud. 
>> They're on a need-to-know basis with my activities.
>> 
>> Does anyone know if Microsoft, AWS or other providers may allow 
>> themselves access to stored files?
>> 
>> On 25/10/20 10:25 am, Jacob Taylor wrote:
>> > An important question to ask is whether you require file storage or 
>> > object storage.
>> > 
>> > While the S3 portal provides a veneer of a filesystem-style hierarchy, 
>> > S3 is really a key-value object store. If you build an application on S3 
>> > but use filesystem-style queries ("list all files in a directory" as an 
>> > example), it can end up being very costly.
>> > 
>> > If you just want a place to upload big files, such as backups, VMs, 
>> > images, and videos, then S3 is ideal.
>> > 
>> > If you are looking for something that requires a file hierarchy, then it 
>> > might not be appropriate.
>> > 
>> > To reiterate what Shaun says, the data you put in an S3 bucket mastered 
>> > in the Sydney region (ap-southeast-2) *will not be stored elsewhere* 
>> > unless you explicitly want it to (via cross-region replication or other 
>> > sync methods).
>> > 
>> > To go into more detail on encryption options:
>> > 
>> >   * Server Side Encryption (SSE): Encryption is done in the S3 service
>> >     itself, you upload/download in plaintext. Comes in a few flavours,
>> >     but they all use the same algorithm (AES-256):
>> >       o SSE-S3: This is the simplest and easiest to use, basically
>> >         turnkey. S3 will use an AWS-managed key in KMS to encrypt your
>> >         files.
>> >       o SSE-KMS: Same as above, however it uses a custom key you manage
>> >         (could be generated on-prem and uploaded, as an example).
>> >       o SSE-C: Encrypts files with a key given to S3 by your application
>> >         at the time of upload, and you cannot download the file without
>> >         providing the same key at the time you request it.
>> >   * Client Side Encryption: Describes any scenario where your
>> >     application encrypts a file prior to uploading, and decrypts after
>> >     downloading.
>> > 
>> > Disclaimer: I work for AWS
>> > 
>> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 12:34 PM Shaun Ewing <shaun at shaun.net 
>> > <mailto:shaun at shaun.net>> wrote:
>> > 
>> >     Data uploaded to S3 will stay entirely within a region unless you
>> >     explicitly configure cross-region replication.____
>> > 
>> >     __ __
>> > 
>> >     There’s a bunch of encryption options including Amazon S3-Managed
>> >     Keys and customer provided keys.____
>> > 
>> >     __ __
>> > 
>> >     (Disclosure: I work for AWS)____
>> > 
>> >     __ __
>> > 
>> >     *From:*AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
>> >     <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> *On Behalf Of *Giles Pollock
>> >     *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 12:08 PM
>> >     *To:* Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>>
>> >     *Cc:* Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
>> >     *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Australian based cloud storage____
>> > 
>> >     __ __
>> > 
>> >     Amazon have a region, ap-southeast-2 which is Sydney based. Can't
>> >     comment whether stuff that goes into s3 gets replicated elsewhere, I
>> >     believe you can set the class so it doesn't, but you'd need to talk
>> >     to someone at AWS to confirm. ____
>> > 
>> >     __ __
>> > 
>> >     On Sun, 25 Oct 2020, 12:02 Kai, <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au
>> >     <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>> wrote:____
>> > 
>> >         Hi folks,
>> > 
>> >         Happy weekend.
>> >         I'm searching for Australian based cloud storage.
>> > 
>> >         Google, Microsoft and the other big names might have cache
>> >         server here
>> >         but the data is also stored overseas, I'm looking for providers who
>> >         either allow you to choose your cloud storage location, or only
>> >         have
>> >         hosting within Australia, and have storage which is encrypted.
>> > 
>> >         Any feedback is welcome.
>> > 
>> >         Cheers
>> >         Kai
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