[AusNOG] Telstra Wi-Fi calling on our network.

[Narelle Clark]

On Wed, 16 Oct. 2019, 2:17 pm Paul Brooks, <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
wrote:

> On 15/10/2019 5:09 pm, Paul Wilkins wrote:
>
> Well that is interesting Narelle, however, if it's anticompetitive to
> discriminately treat packet based VOIP traffic, then it is likewise
> anticompetetive to cross subsidise your circuit based business by shunting
> traffic over a competitors' packet based network. What's sauce for the
> goose etc.
>
> <snippage>

> b) Its not your competitors traffic. Its your customers' traffic,
> requested by your customers' devices attached to your customers' WiFi
> networks.
>
> c) there was a time when it would be a cold day in hell before a telephone
> network engineer would consider pushing a well-managed high-quality voice
> call over an unmanaged, flaky, unknown, uncontrolled medium such as a
> best-efforts Internet network, let alone a not-mine ISP network, let alone
> a (shudder) end-user WiFi segment. That this is even a thing should be
> regarded as a testament to the high-enough quality of Internet data
> networks no longer being considered a poor cousin to an on-net
> end-to-end-managed carrier backbone network. Its not anti-competitive, its
> pro-competitive admiration that your network is better than theirs in some
> places.  Blocking it would indeed be anticompetitive.
>

Exactly.

An probably also a good case of product misrepresentation.

Are you advertising an "Internet service"? Or something that would
reasonably be construed by the average customer as such?

Then blocking ports and services is plainly not part of an any to any
Internet service.

If you are selling some cut down nobbled access thingy then you need to
clearly represent that to your customers.

By all means package up an "information service" or a "dedicated video
streaming service". I wish you all success with that, but it ain't the
Internet so please don't pretend it is.


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My apologies for flogging this topic folks as it is near and dear to my
heart and an important foundational principle of the  Internet.

It also really *annoys* [1] me when my customers can't use SIP reliably on
their home broadband or other "Internet access" services. Telework is a
reality and people must be able to use their business telephony.

The ACCC is aware this goes on and I believe they are ready to enforce too.


Narelle
[1] Insert expletives

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