[AusNOG] Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events

[Joseph Goldman]

  CoC, T&C's, charters etc are words on paper. There's other words on 
bits of paper, that hold more weight than anything we say or do here, 
yet are still ignored.

  If people aren't afraid to outright break the law, then a simple CoC 
(which basically affirms common decency) wont do much to help.
  Calling these people out (appropriately / to the authorities) and 
having them dealt with in that manner, causing real world consequences, 
certainly can. Harboring a safe environment where victims are not afraid 
to report and seek help, also can.

On 01/10/18 13:26, Peter Tonoli wrote:
> To keep on charter, perhaps we need to look at preventing these issues 
> in future?
>
> Looking at the AusNOG website, and the AusNOG 2018 conference sites - 
> they appear, through my cursory look, to be devoid of a code of 
> conduct, or similar. Perhaps, as a community, a good start would be 
> implementing a Code of Conduct - an example I can think of is Linux 
> Australia's, at https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/ .
>
> Cheers,
> Peter.
>
>
> Quoting Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com>:
>
>> I tend to agree with Paul - if the list charter means we can't discuss a
>> bloody serious issue about how some of our community behave (and the 
>> fact
>> that this behaviour is inappropriate), then I don't think I want to 
>> be on
>> this list any more.
>>
>> Sweep this sort of thing under the carpet (and make no mistake, that's
>> EXACTLY what the "STOP THREAD" was doing), and you're just enabling 
>> it to
>> continue.
>>
>> If such behaviour was reported within the ITPA membership and the
>> accusation was found to be true, the perpetrator would be excluded 
>> from the
>> organisation. Period.
>>
>> I guess we find ourselves at a point where we find out what sort of 
>> group
>> AusNOG wants to be.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where large chunks of our lives are winding up on line, I find it
>>> problematic where discussion of endemic problems get ruled outside the
>>> terms of service. It leaves the problem to fester. Discussion should be
>>> legitimate where there's no names, so no libel.
>>>
>>> Also, the police will only involve themselves in instances of criminal
>>> behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they
>>> won't be interested.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Paul Wilkins
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Bevan*,
>>>>
>>>> Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious matter and I
>>>> encourage you to raise these issues with the appropriate 
>>>> authorities.  The
>>>> police are in the best position to deal with such allegations.   If 
>>>> I can
>>>> be of any assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me directly, 
>>>> off-list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *To the members of the list* - I’m sure any of you would agree that 
>>>> any
>>>> form of sexual harassment is not acceptable.   As such, there is no 
>>>> reason
>>>> for you to follow-up to Bevan’s post.  There is nothing to debate 
>>>> here.
>>>> Please note that this is a STOP THREAD post.  Please see the list 
>>>> charter
>>>> below if you do not understand your obligations with relation to a 
>>>> STOP
>>>> THREAD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> ...
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