[AusNOG] Sexual Harassment at AUSNOG Industry Events

[James Hodgkinson]

Sometimes it helps to have something to point to when members forget that the correct response to this is "take action" rather than "stop discussion".

James

On Mon, 1 Oct 2018, at 13:30, Matt Harlum wrote:
> Do people really need a Code of Conduct to tell them not to be sex offenders?
> 
> > On 1 Oct 2018, at 1:26 pm, Peter Tonoli <peter+ausnog at metaverse.org> wrote:
> > 
> > To keep on charter, perhaps we need to look at preventing these issues in future?
> > 
> > Looking at the AusNOG website, and the AusNOG 2018 conference sites - they appear, through my cursory look, to be devoid of a code of conduct, or similar. Perhaps, as a community, a good start would be implementing a Code of Conduct - an example I can think of is Linux Australia's, at https://linux.conf.au/attend/code-of-conduct/ .
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Peter.
> > 
> > 
> > Quoting Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com>:
> > 
> >> I tend to agree with Paul - if the list charter means we can't discuss a
> >> bloody serious issue about how some of our community behave (and the fact
> >> that this behaviour is inappropriate), then I don't think I want to be on
> >> this list any more.
> >> 
> >> Sweep this sort of thing under the carpet (and make no mistake, that's
> >> EXACTLY what the "STOP THREAD" was doing), and you're just enabling it to
> >> continue.
> >> 
> >> If such behaviour was reported within the ITPA membership and the
> >> accusation was found to be true, the perpetrator would be excluded from the
> >> organisation. Period.
> >> 
> >> I guess we find ourselves at a point where we find out what sort of group
> >> AusNOG wants to be.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Robert
> >> 
> >>> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Where large chunks of our lives are winding up on line, I find it
> >>> problematic where discussion of endemic problems get ruled outside the
> >>> terms of service. It leaves the problem to fester. Discussion should be
> >>> legitimate where there's no names, so no libel.
> >>> 
> >>> Also, the police will only involve themselves in instances of criminal
> >>> behaviour. Most inappropriate workplace behaviour falls short and they
> >>> won't be interested.
> >>> 
> >>> Kind regards
> >>> 
> >>> Paul Wilkins
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:46, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> *Bevan*,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Any allegation of sexual harassment is a very serious matter and I
> >>>> encourage you to raise these issues with the appropriate authorities.  The
> >>>> police are in the best position to deal with such allegations.   If I can
> >>>> be of any assistance please don’t hesitate to contact me directly, off-list.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> *To the members of the list* - I’m sure any of you would agree that any
> >>>> form of sexual harassment is not acceptable.   As such, there is no reason
> >>>> for you to follow-up to Bevan’s post.  There is nothing to debate here.
> >>>> Please note that this is a STOP THREAD post.  Please see the list charter
> >>>> below if you do not understand your obligations with relation to a STOP
> >>>> THREAD.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> https://www.ausnog.net/mailing_list/charter
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> David
> >>>> ...
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