[AusNOG] [AUSNOG] MS patches Intel memory management

Paul Wilkins paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 14 10:55:24 EST 2018


Latest advice from Intel:

https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00088&languageid=en-fr

No mention of warranty :)

News to me, defect applies also in AMD and ARM.

Very interested to hear if anyone takes this to Dep't Fair Trading and the
response.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins


On 8 January 2018 at 11:50, James Hodgkinson <yaleman at ricetek.net> wrote:

> Yep, we have security appliances sold on performance figures that’ll be
> checked and pointed at pretty firmly post patching.
>
>
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2018, at 09:57, Mark Newton wrote:
>
> The phrase, “Of merchantable quality and fitness for purpose,” will become
> increasingly familiar to vendors over the next few weeks.
>
> Note that if you have relied on performance statements from a server
> vendor, and that performance can’t be delivered because the CPU can’t
> operate as advertised, both the CPU vendor *and the server vendor* have
> an obligation to make good.
>
> Start on page 5:
> https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Warranties%20and%
> 20refunds%20-%20a%20guide%20for%20consumers%20and%20business.pdf
>
>
>    - mark
>
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Giles Pollock <glp71s at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From their warranty section:
>
> WHAT THIS LIMITED WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER:
> • design defects or errors in the Product (Errata). Contact Intel for
> information on characterized errata.
> • any costs associated with the repair or replacement of the Product,
> including costs of removal or replacement of the Product;
> • damage to the Product, or errors or malfunctions in the Product, due to
> accident, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, use
> contrary to product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, mishandling,
> repair, improper installation or testing, combinations with incompatible
> products or any third party virus, infection, worm or similar malicious
> code;
> • that the Product will protect against all possible security threats,
> including intentional misconduct by third parties;
> • any Product which has been modified or operated outside of Intel’s
> publicly available specifications, including where clock frequencies or
> voltages have been altered, or where the original identification markings
> have been removed, altered or obliterated. Intel assumes no responsibility
> that the Product, including if used with altered clock frequencies or
> voltages, will be fit for any particular purpose and will not cause any
> damage or injury.
>
> Option 1 and 4 seems to have them covered :-(
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:07 AM, James Hodgkinson <yaleman at ricetek.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Watch them pull out the “this warranty doesn’t actually cover anything,
> and we don’t say it’ll work in all conditions” card. It’ll be nice to get a
> free CPU if they do have to, however! :)
>
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, at 18:32, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
>
> If the hardware is under warranty, I'd be expecting the vendor to replace
> the CPU's with updated ones which are not affected?  (oh man that's going
> to hurt Intel?)
>
> On 4 January 2018 at 16:31, Burt Mascareigne <Burt at stormnetwork.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> So, with this performance hit, does that mean we have to buy more Intel
> Servers to cope O_o
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Wilkins
> *Sent:* Thursday, 4 January 2018 3:52 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] [AUSNOG] MS patches Intel memory management
>
>
>
> Fix for security bug in Intel CPUs will be released patch Tuesday, and
> predictions are of a 5 - 30% performance hit.
>
> This is a problem in cloud, but I'm sure it will all be good on the day :)
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
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