<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Latest advice from Intel:<br><br></div><a href="https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00088&languageid=en-fr">https://security-center.intel.com/advisory.aspx?intelid=INTEL-SA-00088&languageid=en-fr</a><br><br></div>No mention of warranty :)<br><br></div>News to me, defect applies also in AMD and ARM.<br><br></div>Very interested to hear if anyone takes this to Dep't Fair Trading and the response.<br><br></div>Kind regards<br><br></div>Paul Wilkins<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 January 2018 at 11:50, James Hodgkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yaleman@ricetek.net" target="_blank">yaleman@ricetek.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div><div>Yep, we have security appliances sold on performance figures that’ll be checked and pointed at pretty firmly post patching. <br></div><div><div class="h5">
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<div>On Mon, 8 Jan 2018, at 09:57, Mark Newton wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div>The phrase, “Of merchantable quality and fitness for purpose,” will become increasingly familiar to vendors over the next few weeks.<br></div>
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<div>Note that if you have relied on performance statements from a server vendor, and that performance can’t be delivered because the CPU can’t operate as advertised, both the CPU vendor <i>and the server vendor</i> have an obligation to make good.<br></div>
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<div><a href="https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Warranties%20and%20refunds%20-%20a%20guide%20for%20consumers%20and%20business.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.accc.gov.au/<wbr>system/files/Warranties%20and%<wbr>20refunds%20-%20a%20guide%<wbr>20for%20consumers%20and%<wbr>20business.pdf</a><br></div>
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<div>On Jan 5, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Giles Pollock <<a href="mailto:glp71s@gmail.com" target="_blank">glp71s@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div dir="ltr"><div>From their warranty section:<br></div>
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<div>WHAT THIS LIMITED WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER: <br></div>
<div>• design defects or errors in the Product (Errata). Contact Intel for information on characterized errata. <br></div>
<div>• any costs associated with the repair or replacement of the Product, including costs of removal or replacement of the Product; <br></div>
<div>• damage to the Product, or errors or malfunctions in the Product, due to accident, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, use
contrary to product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, mishandling, repair, improper installation or testing, combinations with incompatible
products or any third party virus, infection, worm or similar malicious code; <br></div>
<div>• that the Product will protect against all possible security threats, including intentional misconduct by third parties; <br></div>
<div>• any Product which has been modified or operated outside of Intel’s publicly available specifications, including where clock frequencies or voltages
have been altered, or where the original identification markings have been removed, altered or obliterated. Intel assumes no responsibility that the
Product, including if used with altered clock frequencies or voltages, will be fit for any particular purpose and will not cause any damage or injury. <br></div>
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<div>Option 1 and 4 seems to have them covered :-(<br></div>
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<div><div>On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:07 AM, James Hodgkinson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yaleman@ricetek.net" target="_blank">yaleman@ricetek.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<div><div>Watch them pull out the “this warranty doesn’t actually cover anything, and we don’t say it’ll work in all conditions” card. It’ll be nice to get a free CPU if they do have to, however! :)<br></div>
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<div>On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, at 18:32, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">If the hardware is under warranty, I'd be expecting the vendor to replace the CPU's with updated ones which are not affected? (oh man that's going to hurt Intel?)<br></div>
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<div><div>On 4 January 2018 at 16:31, Burt Mascareigne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Burt@stormnetwork.com.au" target="_blank">Burt@stormnetwork.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt">This is a problem in cloud, but I'm sure it will all be good on the day :)<u></u><u></u><br></p></div>
<p style="margin-bottom:12pt">Kind regards<u></u><u></u><br></p></div>
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