[AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

Mehmet Akcin mehmet at akcin.net
Sun Dec 2 12:11:38 EST 2018


Dear Jonathan,

It is here, please go to https://dev.networkatlas.org and see the logo
"Powered by Fibermap" - we have no affiliation with Fibermap, they have
provided us all these KMZs, + Attributions that are there, makes complete
map.

I have added following text to make sure it's clear Thanks to Fibermap.com
for providing all terresterial data except below

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 5:10 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mehmit,
>
> Your updates of 16 hours ago took care of some attribution issues. But
> still there's data on your map that is not attributed. I asked in
> particular for detail on African terrestrial networks - and you failed to
> answer. Where did it come from? Who is responsible for its accuracy?
>
> These are questions the community needs to know before you should ask us
> to hand over data.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 09:02, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jonathan,
>>
>> Please look at
>> https://github.com/networkatlas/v1/commits/d3bccafea796546901e85e5c7bdbd586df4e88ac/attributions
>> you will clearly see the attributions were there since September 29, 2018.
>> What I have done yesterday was to add further Greg's details so it was
>> carried over (Greg is helping us with Network Atlas.)
>>
>> I do not think I need to say sorry, but I strongly believe you are.
>>
>> Mehmet
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 3:44 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Attributions did not exist until 16 hours ago. Github is great for
>>> exposing bullshit like this.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/networkatlas/v1/commit/d3bccafea796546901e85e5c7bdbd586df4e88ac#diff-4029522360c0e138d09ba64471884ed8
>>>
>>> Mehmet, what you should have said was: "We haven't been attributing
>>> suppliers of data, but we've done it just now, sorry."
>>>
>>> Add to your attributions though some detail on where your terrestrial
>>> Africa networks came from.
>>>
>>> -JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 15:08, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> please look at the right bottom corner of our website which refers to
>>>> attributions. We are currently leveraging www.fibermap.com data set
>>>> and greg's cable map and additional maps that was made available via direct
>>>> email submission of authorized people from companies. If you are having
>>>> trouble finding, let me know and I will be happy to help you.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:17 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mehmet,
>>>>>
>>>>> I had two questions. You answered one.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question you didn't answer was about attribution. "What's going to
>>>>> be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data?"
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask because the current iteration of your map doesn't have any
>>>>> attribution to its data. A lot of data suppliers out there (myself
>>>>> included) license their data under GPL or Creative Commons licenses - most
>>>>> of which require attribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't seem to be a part of your development site - so a
>>>>> thorough explanation would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 12:02, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a fantastic question. Thank you for asking!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are running a kickstarter and looking for some sponsors to develop
>>>>>> self service portal. This portal will give the fiber owner(s) access to
>>>>>> modify the data and remove
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We hope to have this feature ready by early 2019 (if we can secure
>>>>>> the funding)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mehmet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:56 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mehmet,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's going to be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the
>>>>>>> data? And how will you make sure it is accurate & up-to-date?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 11:46, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am looking for help for https://dev.networkatlas.org project in
>>>>>>>> Australia. I can't seem to be able to collect KZMs from people ;) if you
>>>>>>>> are able to help us get KMZs (terrestrial) it would be great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks bunch in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ps; if you want to help in any other way, please reach out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mehmet
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mehmet
>>>>>> +1-424-298-1903
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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