[AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

[Jonathan Brewer]

Mehmit,

Your updates of 16 hours ago took care of some attribution issues. But
still there's data on your map that is not attributed. I asked in
particular for detail on African terrestrial networks - and you failed to
answer. Where did it come from? Who is responsible for its accuracy?

These are questions the community needs to know before you should ask us to
hand over data.

Regards,

Jon




On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 at 09:02, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:

> Dear Jonathan,
>
> Please look at
> https://github.com/networkatlas/v1/commits/d3bccafea796546901e85e5c7bdbd586df4e88ac/attributions
> you will clearly see the attributions were there since September 29, 2018.
> What I have done yesterday was to add further Greg's details so it was
> carried over (Greg is helping us with Network Atlas.)
>
> I do not think I need to say sorry, but I strongly believe you are.
>
> Mehmet
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 3:44 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Attributions did not exist until 16 hours ago. Github is great for
>> exposing bullshit like this.
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/networkatlas/v1/commit/d3bccafea796546901e85e5c7bdbd586df4e88ac#diff-4029522360c0e138d09ba64471884ed8
>>
>> Mehmet, what you should have said was: "We haven't been attributing
>> suppliers of data, but we've done it just now, sorry."
>>
>> Add to your attributions though some detail on where your terrestrial
>> Africa networks came from.
>>
>> -JB
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 15:08, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> please look at the right bottom corner of our website which refers to
>>> attributions. We are currently leveraging www.fibermap.com data set and
>>> greg's cable map and additional maps that was made available via direct
>>> email submission of authorized people from companies. If you are having
>>> trouble finding, let me know and I will be happy to help you.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:17 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mehmet,
>>>>
>>>> I had two questions. You answered one.
>>>>
>>>> The question you didn't answer was about attribution. "What's going to
>>>> be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data?"
>>>>
>>>> I ask because the current iteration of your map doesn't have any
>>>> attribution to its data. A lot of data suppliers out there (myself
>>>> included) license their data under GPL or Creative Commons licenses - most
>>>> of which require attribution.
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't seem to be a part of your development site - so a thorough
>>>> explanation would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 12:02, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That is a fantastic question. Thank you for asking!
>>>>>
>>>>> We are running a kickstarter and looking for some sponsors to develop
>>>>> self service portal. This portal will give the fiber owner(s) access to
>>>>> modify the data and remove
>>>>>
>>>>> We hope to have this feature ready by early 2019 (if we can secure the
>>>>> funding)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mehmet
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:56 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mehmet,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's going to be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the
>>>>>> data? And how will you make sure it is accurate & up-to-date?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 11:46, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Team,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am looking for help for https://dev.networkatlas.org project in
>>>>>>> Australia. I can't seem to be able to collect KZMs from people ;) if you
>>>>>>> are able to help us get KMZs (terrestrial) it would be great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks bunch in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ps; if you want to help in any other way, please reach out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mehmet
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>> Mehmet
>>>>> +1-424-298-1903
>>>>>
>>>>
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