[AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

[Mehmet Akcin]

thank you Bevan,

I respect that. I just everyone to know if one day, they want to allow
operations people have more visibility, and one place to see all global
world's fiber infrastructure, we are waiting with open arms to welcome
their data, and we will happily host it, visualize it and help it become
helpful.

thank you for taking time responding, explaining, and I appreciate your
sincere and detailed feedback.

mehmet

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:42 PM Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
wrote:

> Mehmet,
>
> I suppose the old man in me, has some history with this and I don’t want
> my “hurdles” to be reasons you don’t do it. I wish you all the best with
> the project.  I sincerely do.
>
>
>
> So to answer your original post what is the reasons (legislative or
> otherwise) people don’t do these things
>
>    - There is no legislations that says a carrier cannot disclose it’s
>    information
>    - Some carriers are included as part of a “critical infrastructure”
>    group layer and as a practice/agreement should not be handing out
>    information readily available.  (I am aware of people sending me this
>    information before – but for a stated purpose – to procure sales etc.).
>    These are often license conditions on their carrier license or agreements
>    with authorities as the cost of admission to play in the bigger game.
>    - Outside of legislative or imposed conditions on their carrier
>    licenses , some carriers value their network routes, partly as know-how but
>    also partly as general security.
>
>
>
> Copyright, reproducing material, emails with information from “authorised
> persons” etc. is best for you to follow up separately with someone who has
> legal experience in this area.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> [b]
>
>
>
> *From: *AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Mehmet
> Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net>
> *Date: *Saturday, 1 December 2018 at 5:09 pm
> *To: *Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)
>
>
>
> Jonathan,
>
>
>
> please look at the right bottom corner of our website which refers to
> attributions. We are currently leveraging www.fibermap.com data set and
> greg's cable map and additional maps that was made available via direct
> email submission of authorized people from companies. If you are having
> trouble finding, let me know and I will be happy to help you.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:17 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mehmet,
>
>
> I had two questions. You answered one.
>
>
> The question you didn't answer was about attribution. "What's going to be
> your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data?"
>
>
>
> I ask because the current iteration of your map doesn't have any
> attribution to its data. A lot of data suppliers out there (myself
> included) license their data under GPL or Creative Commons licenses - most
> of which require attribution.
>
>
>
> That doesn't seem to be a part of your development site - so a thorough
> explanation would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 12:02, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>
> That is a fantastic question. Thank you for asking!
>
>
>
> We are running a kickstarter and looking for some sponsors to develop self
> service portal. This portal will give the fiber owner(s) access to modify
> the data and remove
>
>
>
> We hope to have this feature ready by early 2019 (if we can secure the
> funding)
>
>
>
> Mehmet
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:56 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Mehmet,
>
>
> What's going to be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data? And
> how will you make sure it is accurate & up-to-date?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 11:46, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net> wrote:
>
> Team,
>
>
>
> I am looking for help for https://dev.networkatlas.org project in
> Australia. I can't seem to be able to collect KZMs from people ;) if you
> are able to help us get KMZs (terrestrial) it would be great.
>
>
>
> thanks bunch in advance.
>
>
>
> ps; if you want to help in any other way, please reach out.
>
>
>
> mehmet
>
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