[AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

[Bevan Slattery]

Mehmet,

I suppose the old man in me, has some history with this and I don’t want my “hurdles” to be reasons you don’t do it. I wish you all the best with the project.  I sincerely do.

So to answer your original post what is the reasons (legislative or otherwise) people don’t do these things

  *   There is no legislations that says a carrier cannot disclose it’s information
  *   Some carriers are included as part of a “critical infrastructure” group layer and as a practice/agreement should not be handing out information readily available.  (I am aware of people sending me this information before – but for a stated purpose – to procure sales etc.).  These are often license conditions on their carrier license or agreements with authorities as the cost of admission to play in the bigger game.
  *   Outside of legislative or imposed conditions on their carrier licenses , some carriers value their network routes, partly as know-how but also partly as general security.

Copyright, reproducing material, emails with information from “authorised persons” etc. is best for you to follow up separately with someone who has legal experience in this area.

Cheers

[b]

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net>
Date: Saturday, 1 December 2018 at 5:09 pm
To: Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com>
Cc: "<ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

Jonathan,

please look at the right bottom corner of our website which refers to attributions. We are currently leveraging www.fibermap.com<http://www.fibermap.com> data set and greg's cable map and additional maps that was made available via direct email submission of authorized people from companies. If you are having trouble finding, let me know and I will be happy to help you.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:17 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com<mailto:jon.brewer at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Mehmet,

I had two questions. You answered one.

The question you didn't answer was about attribution. "What's going to be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data?"

I ask because the current iteration of your map doesn't have any attribution to its data. A lot of data suppliers out there (myself included) license their data under GPL or Creative Commons licenses - most of which require attribution.

That doesn't seem to be a part of your development site - so a thorough explanation would be appreciated.

Regards,

Jon


On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 12:02, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net<mailto:mehmet at akcin.net>> wrote:
That is a fantastic question. Thank you for asking!

We are running a kickstarter and looking for some sponsors to develop self service portal. This portal will give the fiber owner(s) access to modify the data and remove

We hope to have this feature ready by early 2019 (if we can secure the funding)

Mehmet

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 7:56 PM Jonathan Brewer <jon.brewer at gmail.com<mailto:jon.brewer at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Mehmet,

What's going to be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data? And how will you make sure it is accurate & up-to-date?

Regards,

Jon

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 11:46, Mehmet Akcin <mehmet at akcin.net<mailto:mehmet at akcin.net>> wrote:
Team,

I am looking for help for https://dev.networkatlas.org project in Australia. I can't seem to be able to collect KZMs from people ;) if you are able to help us get KMZs (terrestrial) it would be great.

thanks bunch in advance.

ps; if you want to help in any other way, please reach out.

mehmet
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