[AusNOG] HFC

Tue Sep 12 15:52:30 EST 2017

Hi All

Thanks for the feedback.

From what I’ve gathered from the various replies.  It’s great if it works, and a nightmare if it doesn’t with no wiggle room.

Some common points, yes, I know about Office365…. The site uses a VPN and that’s why Static IP means nothing to us.  The MailServer is a “Mail Archiver” which we use to receive traffic from the Journaled Office 365 account.

I know a lot of people have strong opinions, but there is more than 1 way to skin a cat, and yours isn’t the only way. I know, shocking.

Due to costs, we will be getting the HFC with a small EFM for Internet backup, based of the feed back we got here.

Thank again for the help and advise guys 😊

Regards,

Burt Mascareigne
Mobile 0414 450 962   Office (02) 9965 5422
Address Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000
Web http://www.stormnetwork.com.au<http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/>
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From: Stephen Gillies [mailto:max at caretandstick.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 3:40 PM
To: Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com>; Burt Mascareigne <Burt at stormnetwork.com.au>
Cc: ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HFC

While I only have a sample size of 2, I’m seeing HFC as fairly reliable. I’m with one of the newer players in the market, on a 100/40 plan. I’m consistently getting 85/35 during the day, and in the evenings it’s more variable, sometimes down to 40/15 but usually around 75/30. My best speedtest.net test has been 96/42 (not sure of that upload figure to be honest). Only a few providers offer a static IP on an HFC connection, so you’d need to be careful of that. My new provider has said they’re going to be offering statics once they build out their network, so hopefully that will come.

Meanwhile I’ve found that there are virtual shared hosting options for mail servers and the like. But I understand the need for a fixed address.

A number of the cloud security services I need to demo rely on a known fixed IP (and not a dynamic DNS FQDN), and my threat intel updates prefer a static IP for RPZ zone transfers etc. So I’ve ended up configuring a VPN from my lab network to a local Australian VPN end point, and getting a static address from my VPN provider. This allows my lab to look like it’s coming from a static IP and the VPN latency doesn’t affect things too much.

2c

max

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com<mailto:hudrob at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 at 3:20 pm
To: Burt Mascareigne <Burt at stormnetwork.com.au<mailto:Burt at stormnetwork.com.au>>
Cc: ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HFC

In theory, 100Mbps/40Mbps service (and even 1Gbps/400Mbps) services are possible over the nbn HFC service.  Data charges to cover 400GB a month shouldn't be an issue.

Of course, that's just last mile.  There's a lot more to a service than the last mile.  You will get "best efforts" SLA for support of a consumer-grade service, and likely won't get a static IP.  Upgrading to business-grade will resolve some of the issues - but then, when the HFC cable itself is down (let's say a garbage truck cuts it, and resolution is 8 hours), what do you do for redundancy (and you're not thinking redundancy as a service consumer here, but rather as a service provider for your email)?

Personally, I don't think there's actually a valid reason to run a mail server in an office these days except under extreme edge-cases - hosted or cloud mail (or full collaboration, such as Exchange Online via O365) services are so cheap on a monthly basis that the real cost of procuring, building, running and maintaining a reliable service in an office is just insane these days.

On 12 September 2017 at 11:31, Burt Mascareigne <Burt at stormnetwork.com.au<mailto:Burt at stormnetwork.com.au>> wrote:
Hi All

We have a client getting:

nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial

Does anyone have real world exp for this? Can we run a mailserver from here?  Offsite backup?  Is it stable enough for 40 people who do nothing all day but do market research (a LOT of media).  We get in excess of 400GB a month kind of thing.

Is this going to work?  Or stick to what we have now.

Regards,

Burt Mascareigne
Mobile 0414 450 962   Office (02) 9965 5422
Address Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000
Web http://www.stormnetwork.com.au<http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/>
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