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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks for the feedback.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">From what I’ve gathered from the various replies. It’s great if it works, and a nightmare if it doesn’t with no wiggle room.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Some common points, yes, I know about Office365…. The site uses a VPN and that’s why Static IP means nothing to us. The MailServer is a “Mail Archiver” which we use to receive traffic from the Journaled
Office 365 account. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I know a lot of people have strong opinions, but there is more than 1 way to skin a cat, and yours isn’t the only way. I know, shocking.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Due to costs, we will be getting the HFC with a small EFM for Internet backup, based of the feed back we got here.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank again for the help and advise guys
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Burt Mascareigne<br>
Mobile</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> 0414 450 962 <b>Office</b> (02) 9965 5422<br>
<b>Address</b> Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000<br>
<b>Web</b> <a href="http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/"><span style="color:#1F497D">http://www.stormnetwork.com.au</span></a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Stephen Gillies [mailto:max@caretandstick.com.au]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 12 September 2017 3:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Hudson <hudrob@gmail.com>; Burt Mascareigne <Burt@stormnetwork.com.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] HFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While I only have a sample size of 2, I’m seeing HFC as fairly reliable. I’m with one of the newer players in the market, on a 100/40 plan. I’m consistently getting 85/35 during the
day, and in the evenings it’s more variable, sometimes down to 40/15 but usually around 75/30. My best speedtest.net test has been 96/42 (not sure of that upload figure to be honest). Only a few providers offer a static IP on an HFC connection, so you’d need
to be careful of that. My new provider has said they’re going to be offering statics once they build out their network, so hopefully that will come.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Meanwhile I’ve found that there are virtual shared hosting options for mail servers and the like. But I understand the need for a fixed address.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A number of the cloud security services I need to demo rely on a known fixed IP (and not a dynamic DNS FQDN), and my threat intel updates prefer a static IP for RPZ zone transfers etc.
So I’ve ended up configuring a VPN from my lab network to a local Australian VPN end point, and getting a static address from my VPN provider. This allows my lab to look like it’s coming from a static IP and the VPN latency doesn’t affect things too much.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> on behalf of Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com">hudrob@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 12 September 2017 at 3:20 pm<br>
<b>To: </b>Burt Mascareigne <<a href="mailto:Burt@stormnetwork.com.au">Burt@stormnetwork.com.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>ausnog <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [AusNOG] HFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">In theory, 100Mbps/40Mbps service (and even 1Gbps/400Mbps) services are possible over the nbn HFC service. Data charges to cover 400GB a month shouldn't be an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Of course, that's just last mile. There's a lot more to a service than the last mile. You will get "best efforts" SLA for support of a consumer-grade service, and likely won't get a static IP. Upgrading to business-grade
will resolve some of the issues - but then, when the HFC cable itself is down (let's say a garbage truck cuts it, and resolution is 8 hours), what do you do for redundancy (and you're not thinking redundancy as a service consumer here, but rather as a service
provider for your email)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Personally, I don't think there's actually a valid reason to run a mail server in an office these days except under extreme edge-cases - hosted or cloud mail (or full collaboration, such as Exchange Online via O365) services
are so cheap on a monthly basis that the real cost of procuring, building, running and maintaining a reliable service in an office is just insane these days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 12 September 2017 at 11:31, Burt Mascareigne <<a href="mailto:Burt@stormnetwork.com.au" target="_blank">Burt@stormnetwork.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We have a client getting:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">nbn™ Hybrid Fibre Coaxial<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Does anyone have real world exp for this? Can we run a mailserver from here? Offsite backup? Is it stable enough for 40 people who do nothing all day but do market research (a
LOT of media). We get in excess of 400GB a month kind of thing. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Is this going to work? Or stick to what we have now.
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Mobile</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> 0414 450 962 <b>Office</b> (02) 9965 5422<br>
<b>Address</b> Level 19, 1 O’Connell Street, Sydney NSW 2000<br>
<b>Web</b> <a href="http://www.stormnetwork.com.au/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1F497D">http://www.stormnetwork.com.au</span></a><br>
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