[AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN

[Benjamin Ricardo]

Yeah well, got to agree with you there. Politics never expedited anything.
No further comment from me on this topic though – this isn’t a whirlpool forum.
I’m also raising the white flag here for those that have strong views on this, no time for an argument today! ☺


From: Tony Wicks [mailto:tony at wicks.co.nz]
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 2:08 PM
To: Benjamin Ricardo <ben.ricardo at acs.net.au>
Cc: 'Ausnog' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN

Sure, distance is a factor for some of it, but it does not even come close to explaining the stark difference. Let’s face it, the big difference id Telecom NZ was relatively peacefully split into Chorus (in ground infrastructure) and Spark (retail, mobile, everything else) and instead of fighting to the bitter end (aka Telstra) they just got on with it. For example, In NZ a dark fibre from an exchange to a city end point costs $355/mth from Chorus (and others who followed suit). Why is a local piece of fibre within Sydney so much more expensive than one in Queenstown? A 1G/500M GPON retail access cost $60/mth to the service provider.

The big difference here from what I can see from the outside is politics and the big existing players fighting to the bitter end rather than just getting on board.



From: Benjamin Ricardo [mailto:ben.ricardo at acs.net.au]
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 3:53 PM
To: Tony Wicks <tony at wicks.co.nz<mailto:tony at wicks.co.nz>>; 'Alex Samad' <alex at samad.com.au<mailto:alex at samad.com.au>>
Cc: 'Ausnog' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN

We’re about 29 times bigger with only 5 times more people… that could be part of the problem…
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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Tony Wicks
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 1:46 PM
To: 'Alex Samad' <alex at samad.com.au<mailto:alex at samad.com.au>>
Cc: 'Ausnog' <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN

It is somewhat amusing to watch from a Kiwi point of view when you see how smoothly our “UFB” FTTH rollout is going and New Zealand takes an unassailable lead! Nice to be winning for a change 😊

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Alex Samad
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2017 2:44 PM
To: Ausnog <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
Subject: [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/world/australia/australia-slow-internet-broadband.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=2

I thought NYTimes was a Murdoch rag ...
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